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This is a discussion on I Ching, "Omens" & Synchronicity within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I hate to endorse the "ooh INFJ mystical esoteric unicorn" stereotype, but how do you deal with synchronicities and "omens" ...

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    I Ching, "Omens" & Synchronicity

    I hate to endorse the "ooh INFJ mystical esoteric unicorn" stereotype, but how do you deal with synchronicities and "omens" in your life? Do you take them seriously?

    https://www.ichingonline.net/

    Sometimes I use this site and try to make the I Ching tell me something meaningful. I don't believe in "seeing my future", but occasionally the hexagrams come with lines that are very useful advice/make a lot of sense given the particular situation I'm in.

    I def think synchronicity is a thing. Meaningful coincidences baffle me, and I always try to find some sort of explanation for them.



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    It seems the more likely explanation to me that our minds create connections where none exist, though it is also the case that some states of consciousness can only be experienced thus.

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    I don't limit myself to dull lifeless modern intellectual ways of thinking and beliefs but to put it this way that many old cultures past and present knew a lot better than people today that such things are real at least in some capacity. People who think that everything is all just brain chemistry really haven't taken the time to look let alone try to understand these things while others have given up after not getting the results they wanted.
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    I'm very sensitive to synchronicities in my life, but also very careful as to how I interpret them whenever they do happen.

    I've found that there are some connections that are too forced/fake to actually have a very meaningful effect. So it's more like a confirmation bias where I'm actively looking for "signs" that support my current obsession at the time. For example, when I'm in a particularly bad mood, and it starts raining. At that point I'd be like "See? even the weather is agreeing with me!" Of course, this is a silly coincidence, but it may seem like a revelation because of the timing etc.

    However, the truly authentic synchronicities come out of nowhere and hit me like a bolt of lightening. It transforms my whole outlook in life. It speaks to me in a very intuitive way and connects many pieces of "The Puzzle" that didn't make sense before. At first I may not understand their meaning, but when they do, it's like a spiritual orgasm.

    So to answer your question, yes, I take them very seriously.
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    I know I've shared this quote on PerC before, but I love it and here is another fitting situation for it!

    “Early in the novel that Tereza clutched under her arm when she went to visit Tomas, Anna meets Vronsky in curious circumstances: they are at the railway station when someone is run over by a train. At the end of the novel, Anna throws herself under a train. This symmetrical composition—the same motif appears at the beginning and at the end—may seem quite “novelistic” to you, and I am willing to agree, but only on condition that you refrain from reading such notions as “fictive,” “fabricated,” and “untrue to life” into the word “novelistic.” Because human lives are composed in precisely such a fashion.

    ‘They are composed like music. Guided by his sense of beauty, an individual transforms a fortuitous occurrence (Beethoven’s music, death under a train) into a motif, which then assumes a permanent place in the composition of the individual’s life. Anna could have chosen another way to take her life. But the motif of death and the railway station, unforgettably bound to the birth of love, enticed her in her hour of despair with its dark beauty. Without realizing it, the individual composes his life according to the laws of beauty even in times of greatest distress.

    ‘It is wrong, then, to chide the novel for being fascinated by mysterious coincidences (like the meeting of Anna, Vronsky, the railway station, and death or the meeting of Beethoven, Tomas, Tereza, and the cognac), but it is right to chide man for being blind to such coincidences in his daily life. For he thereby deprives his life of a dimension of beauty.”


    -Milan Kundera, The Unbearable Lightness of Being
    I wouldn't say I believe in something behind striking coincidences, but I do think there is something meaningful to them, something we are looking for and therefore are more likely to see, some sort of subconscious pattern connecting. I don't tend to believe in mystical sorts of things, though I don't discount there being something like that completely given certain experiences in particular.

    I've grown more and more to trust my gut instincts, too. I don't have such strong convictions all the time and when I do they tend to be followed up by reality.

    I think those things are often general enough that they can feel like they perfectly address a situation, and they can coincidently be just what you needed to hear. Bits of wisdom or things that make you think are never bad, though!

    But basically I agree with Kundera here:).
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    The curious thing about sychronicities is that I have them happen multiple times a day in a least small ways. Usually it's thinking of a word or phrase and then hearing in right after in or otherwise being exposed to it in the outside world. I've tried to make sense of this because it's something that's not easy to make sense of at all because it happens in such seemingly insignificant ways that I couldn't possibly find a rhyme or reason. I prefer to look at it as that I'm in tune with some primal force to life or that I'm where I'm supposed to be, so to speak, but I couldn't know if that's actually true

    Other times it will happen in somewhat larger ways. One time I gave money to this homeless man selling keychains with a single letter on each and I asked him to just give me two random ones. He happened to give me two that were the initials of my baby sister's name and the very next day I found the same amount of money I gave him on a theatre floor. Another time I was a little strapped for cash but wanted to gather some to get a snack after class. I had 1$ and found another on the floor and got another from someone else. A little later I'm sitting on a bench listening to music and a deaf man comes up to me and hands me a pen with a little note on it saying he's selling pens for 3$ each to help his family. There's been many odd things that have happened to me, but in the way of direct synchronicities, I'll keep it there

    In the way of something like I Ching, at least what I know of it from this thread, I do think things will often come to us in life as we need them and whether it's real or not, it had its relevance because regardless, if the messages give you useful insight, it's served a purpose

    Is anything I wrote true? I don't even think that matters because truth is relative rather than objective and we may all have our own truths that we need in our lives, that steer us in the right direction. I don't believe in seeing my future either, but I've had people just pop up into my life and give me messages for whatever reason and no matter what, through situations in life I've uncovered a strong sense of purpose for what I want to do and what I feel I'm supposed to do and I think this is something we can all do. I practice 'listening to myself' which I've come to realize it likened to automatic writing, if you've ever heard of that, which is also something I've practiced since i was a teenager as I saw it as the purest form of writing for myself, writing from my soul as much as I possibly can

    So I guess my point is, I do believe in listening either to the universe or to ourselves which isn't always easy to do for everyone since the flashes and bangs of the world can distract us from being in tune with the currents of it all. I believe in personal truth as I just can't rationally say I believe humans possess the brains or minds to be able to grasp some objective truth if there is one. And it's quite possible multiple truths exist at once

    I know the end probably will give any NTs a headache, but anyway
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    Cast Hexagram:

    18 - Eighteen

    Ku / Repairing the Damage

    Winds sweep through the Mountain valley:
    The Superior Person sweeps away corruption and stagnation by stirring up the people and strengthening their spirit.

    Supreme success.
    Before crossing to the far shore, consider the move for three days.
    After crossing, devote three days of hard labor to damage control.


    SITUATION ANALYSIS:

    You are blessed with an opportunity to resuscitate that which others have abandoned as beyond repair.
    This ruin wasn't caused by evil intention, but by indifference to decay.
    Just by addressing yourself to the problem, you exhibit a new awareness, a fresh perspective.
    This is a time of recovery, renewal, regeneration.


    What a coincidence after I wrote this: https://www.personalitycafe.com/infj...me-once-2.html

    Of course it's BS.
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    Some time ago, I spent a few years living around a hippie community with a dazzling array of magical beliefs. There was the guru whose words could heal drug addiction; the young women whose entire lives had sprung into being just so they would stand on this beach on this particular night where the stars aligned just so. There was the tantra disciple who made love to the island we all lived on; there were spirits everywhere, one stranger than the next. There were webs, and spiders spinning them, and moths getting caught, and consumed, and their hollow shells spat out to dry out on hospital stretchers.

    I did not understand much of it, but I understood that realms of conscious experience were being visited, and inhabited, and explored, through that only means of transportation going there - faith. I also understood that the faithless few were exploiting the faithful many, sometimes with fatal consequences. There was even the occasional visiting NT, shaking their heads at the madness they had no interest in understanding. Mostly however, there were believers ... believers in everything.

    I could never tell whether their faith helped them in the end, or harmed them. Often, I think it was both ... ups and downs, breakthroughs and setbacks, plateaus and valleys. I don't know whether those who died went to any heavens, but I know many left hells behind.
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    One's faculty of forming interpretations. What a wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiwass View Post
    I hate to endorse the "ooh INFJ mystical esoteric unicorn" stereotype, but how do you deal with synchronicities and "omens" in your life? Do you take them seriously?

    https://www.ichingonline.net/

    Sometimes I use this site and try to make the I Ching tell me something meaningful. I don't believe in "seeing my future", but occasionally the hexagrams come with lines that are very useful advice/make a lot of sense given the particular situation I'm in.

    I def think synchronicity is a thing. Meaningful coincidences baffle me, and I always try to find some sort of explanation for them.
    the Celestine Prophecy book says to pay attention to coincidences in your life when you come upon them. like they may mean something. i tried reading the i ching. i found it dull and not that helpful. i prefer reading the tarot and rune casting. if you get something out of it though, great. i find the tarot and runes to give surprisingly insightful advice.


     
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