[INFJ] Have you ever noticed this about the mirror?

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This is a discussion on Have you ever noticed this about the mirror? within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I have observed something odd that when you look into the mirror, the reflection changes the expression of your face. ...

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    Have you ever noticed this about the mirror?

    I have observed something odd that when you look into the mirror, the reflection changes the expression of your face. Some of the things I noticed were:
    When a face has aspects that show a particular emotion, the reflection of the face has an expression of a person who thinks he is showing that emotion in his face but fails to do so.
    Vice-versa, when a person thinks he is showing an emotion but does not do so, the reflection shows the exact emotion he is trying to portray.
    I remember I used to think I couldn't smile genuinely, because the mirror image of my smile looked too insincere until I looked at a candid photo of mine. Does this happen to you too? I tested it by reversing photographs, to see the difference between mirror image and real life.
    Last edited by Elson; 01-10-2019 at 07:24 PM. Reason: Grammar errors
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    When I was about twelve, my grandmother warned me about mirror gazing. I don't remember exactly how she expressed it, but her warning was that you can accidentally put yourself into a dissociative state by looking in the mirror for too long, too closely. And she was right. I later read about it in the context of psychology--people can do the same thing with candle gazing, it's a kind of self hypnosis.

    Because of her religious beliefs, my grandmother thought it was a state that could bring the unwanted attention of spiritual beings. That was the point of the warning. The timing of the warning was based on her experience that deep mirror gazing is something a person may fall into when their identity is shifting, trying to get a handle on who they are amid the flux--especially during the shift from childhood to adulthood.

    How old are you, if you don't mind my asking, Elson?

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    It's probably because you can't trick yourself into experiencing x emotion and corresponding facial expression(s). If I'm genuinely upset, angry, happy, etc... and happen to catch a glimpse of myself in the mirror: the expression is generally 'authentic'. It's only after having too much time(sub-seconds) to analyze what you're seeing, that muscles will accordingly 'let up' involuntarily. Trying to stay angry = forcing something = the reflected internal state in the mirror = a distorted version of x 'emotion'.

    Also, I think that maybe combined with saccadic masking, what the mirror reflects is a further delayed afterimage of our expression. Who knows, maybe the brain is trying to approximate and ends up giving you 'fake' images of yourself...



    I can't for the life of me remember where I first heard about saccadic suppression.
    Was it here? Was it I Origins?
    That's going to bother me...
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    I'm 20
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    But I edited photographs by horizontally flipping it so that it is reversed and then compared it, even then there were same results.

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    One thing I've noticed about mirrors is,
    it doesn't matter how far away I travel
    - that same old face keeps stalking me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elson View Post
    I'm 20
    20 was certainly flux year for me. I'm curious, what made you interested in this phenomenon, Elson? It is the kind of thing actors or people who are fine-tuning their public affect for some other reason would tend to think about.

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    I've never looked at my face enough to know.

    According to me, mirrors are meant for grooming; makeup & hair.

    But my fake smile is really obviously fake, I'm resigned that it always will be, so I try not to use it at all. My (rare) real smile doesn't need improvement, just like most people's don't. Genuine is always pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paper Shade View Post
    20 was certainly flux year for me. I'm curious, what made you interested in this phenomenon, Elson? It is the kind of thing actors or people who are fine-tuning their public affect for some other reason would tend to think about.
    I used to think I couldn't smile normally because whenever I looked into the mirror it looked fake. So I stopped myself from smiling in camera, because I thought I was very self-conscious and my smile was forced. But then someone took a photo of me smiling without me knowing and I found my smile actually looked genuine and all those years I was holding back. That's how I got interested in knowing why it happens and why it was so misleading. I was surprised that most people didn't know about it.
    Last edited by Elson; 01-10-2019 at 07:25 PM. Reason: Grammar errors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elson View Post
    I used to think I couldn't smile normally because whenever I looked into the mirror it looked fake. So I started stopping myself from smiling in camera, I thought I was very self-conscious of smiling and it was forced. But then someone took a photo of me smiling without me knowing and I found out my smile actually looked genuine and all those years I was holding back. So I got interested in knowing why it happens and why it was so misleading, because it almost made me lose my confidence. I was surprised how most people didn't know about it.
    Glad you got your smile back out there.
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