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    My ex is an INTP, and I'm currently with another INTP whom I can definitely see myself spending my life with.

    Not exactly sure why INFJ/INTP would be the golden pair, but to me at least, my relationship with my INTP is golden. The list of whys is long, and I honestly don't know where to even start, so I guess I won't start at all.

    But my INTP and I have agreed it must be because of our Fe/Ti dynamics...and we just simply stabilize and balance each other's weaknesses with our own strengths. He helps me with improving my Ti and I help develop his Fe. I'm also perpetually attracted to his Ne.

    If I were to compare, one of the things that really made a difference in my connection with my current partner is how compatible our instincts (enneagram) are, how we share the same priorities when it comes to nurturing the relationship...something I wasn't able to achieve with my sp-dom ex.

    (Not to say of course that only these factors matter! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaysInfectious View Post
    I happened to think about this a while ago (the infj/intp pairing question) but didn't get far because I was attracted to the idea of a ENFJ/INTP pairing a bit more. From a literal standpoint (the guidelines that depict both personalities) greatness can come from this type of team/companionship, be it for love or work, but I think the caveat is the introvert nature of both individuals. In order for this pairing to be "golden" as it would be on paper, one of the mates would need to step into the light and be the extrovert. In that, someone will need to guide the pair. I think that would need to come from a Female in the relationship as an introvert man is probably more likely to be stuck in our ways and needy (that would me- INTP) unless an extreme motivator came into the mix. Where as a female may tend to be more laxed to social and emotional "discomfort" in some respects.


    My question on the matter is, what exactly is supposed to be golden about the pairing? Just the relationship? Or something much greater? Is this supposed to be a golden pairing for society? From my own perspective, I see this as something meant to shape the future of humanity. As extreme as that sounds, that is the only thing I perceive as "golden" when it comes to human bonding.

    I think a more natural "golden" pairing...well probably a "silver" pairing for myself is with an ISTP. I find most people I perceive to be ISTP's to be bold enough for me, but not overbearing with guiding the relationship. But in that same right, ISTP's can be very hipster'ish and equally stubborn which would kill the relationship in short order, as it has for me in previous relationships.

    So maybe there is something to the INTP/INFJ pairing that would work for a lot of people if the connection was necessary or beneficial.

    I like the way you think, especially making these points “My question on the matter is, what exactly is supposed to be golden about the pairing? Just the relationship? Or something much greater? Is this supposed to be a golden pairing for society? From my own perspective, I see this as something meant to shape the future of humanity. As extreme as that sounds, that is the only thing I perceive as "golden" when it comes to human bonding.”

    when I brought this topic up I didn’t think about perspective just the title that’s been buzzing around. Like the previous post by TEMPTINGTHESEA mentioning the Ti/Fe strengths and weaknesses, I too think this is why my SO and I work well together. We are best friends who build each other up attempting to achieve true Eudiamonia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hubbleINFJ View Post
    I like the way you think, especially making these points “My question on the matter is, what exactly is supposed to be golden about the pairing? Just the relationship? Or something much greater? Is this supposed to be a golden pairing for society? From my own perspective, I see this as something meant to shape the future of humanity. As extreme as that sounds, that is the only thing I perceive as "golden" when it comes to human bonding.”

    when I brought this topic up I didn’t think about perspective just the title that’s been buzzing around. Like the previous post by TEMPTINGTHESEA mentioning the Ti/Fe strengths and weaknesses, I too think this is why my SO and I work well together. We are best friends who build each other up attempting to achieve true Eudiamonia.
    I would add that some INFJs and INTPs do not seem to see each other eye to eye because at that stage of meeting, there is simply a huge gap between where they are in terms of their own personal development. One would be too Fe for the other who's a Ti-dom, and the other would be too cold and logical for someone priotizing emotions and harmony. ( I do not want to risk oversimplifying how the functions work, but from my limited knowledge, this is how I view them.)

    Personally, I'm at this point in my life where I've just been keen on strengthening and looking for ways to improve my (rather neglected)Ti which is then reciprocated by my SO's efforts to pay attention to his inferior Fe and do something about it. I guess we just met at a time when we were both finally ready and willing to learn something from the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingthesea View Post
    Personally, I'm at this point in my life where I've just been keen on strengthening and looking for ways to improve my (rather neglected)Ti which is then reciprocated by my SO's efforts to pay attention to his inferior Fe and do something about it. I guess we just met at a time when we were both finally ready and willing to learn something from the other.
    Why did I think @knife was an ENTP?

    I think one of the reasons I tend to get well along with INTPs is that I tend to favour Ti over Fe, if not to that degree. Can't imagine being in a romantic relationship with one though, as I need my partner to be more emotional than I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    Why did I think @knife was an ENTP?

    I think one of the reasons I tend to get well along with INTPs is that I tend to favour Ti over Fe, if not to that degree. Can't imagine being in a romantic relationship with one though, as I need my partner to be more emotional than I am.
    Yeah. I’d seen him as an ENTP, too. But recently, I’ve been leaning towards INTP.
    People are also divided when it comes to his type. Even he himself!

    My best college buddies are xNTPs, too. I always needed them to get me out of my loop (though they could be too blunt and cold sometimes xD). So I guess for a romantic partner, that’s also what I’m looking for. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by temptingthesea View Post
    Yeah. I’d seen him as an ENTP, too. But recently, I’ve been leaning towards INTP.
    People are also divided when it comes to his type. Even he himself!

    My best college buddies are xNTPs, too. I always needed them to get me out of my loop (though they could be too blunt and cold sometimes xD). So I guess for a romantic partner, that’s also what I’m looking for. :)
    Me too! I don’t like getting swept away by my emotions. I appreciate being grounded.

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    Gold, the gold standard, the standard all other currencies are measured by, the most valuable and precious metal, your doing well, 'you're golden' no need to worry, the golden child, the chosen one, the golden boy - Freddie Mercury lyrics "I love you for your silence, I love you for your peace, The still and calm releases, That sweep into my soul, That slowly take control, I love you for your passion, I love you for your fire, The violent desire, That burns me in it's flame, A love I dare not name".

    I think INFJ-INTP golden pair just means a rare and precious compatibility.

    INTP's Ti in INFJ's tertiary/hidden agenda.

    "Every person has a hidden agenda. This agenda often governs one's intentions and behaviour. People are often unaware of its origin, but can always feel its significance. Some people are more affected by it than other people. Every type requires an optimal condition in which it can function properly. If such condition does not exist, a person will normally attempt to create it. However, due to the nature of the hidden agenda, if and when the optimal condition is reached, the person will occasionally put themselves in a situation where the stability of this condition is threatened."


    INFJ's Fe co-pilot in INTP's inferior.

    "The inferior function represents the ultimate goal or attractor point for each personality type’s growth and development. It is what motivates and draws us forward, compelling us to live more authentically and to move toward greater truth and wholeness."

    Both types psychologically activate each other a great deal, but it is asymmetrical because INTP's need help with their inferior more than INFJ's with their tertiary. However, INTP's also provide the most mature expression (Ti dominant) of INFJ's tert.

    Which is kind of interesting because (anecdotal) I've noticed over the years, a number of posts from INTP's being very enthralled with INFJ's, but often expressing this fear or inadequacy, of being unable to give back to INFJ what INTP receives. Which is why, in socionics, it's considered 'beneficiary relations'. The INTP will push themselves further out of their comfort zone for INFJ's, than any other type... in an attempt to 'ingratiate', understand, support and balance the psychological exchange.

    I mean, I don't really know how well any of it pans out in reality, but it sounds kinda neat.
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