[INFJ] INTJ Artists and INFJ Artists, what kind of dynamic would it be?

INTJ Artists and INFJ Artists, what kind of dynamic would it be?

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This is a discussion on INTJ Artists and INFJ Artists, what kind of dynamic would it be? within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I'm especially interested in hearing how the creative process differs, and perhaps perceptions of how art looks to the other ...

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    INTJ Artists and INFJ Artists, what kind of dynamic would it be?

    I'm especially interested in hearing how the creative process differs, and perhaps perceptions of how art looks to the other type.

    Personally I am looking for closure after meeting an INFJ who intervened on my process. It was a bad experience, but I am still trying to understand why. I've had plenty of disconnects with INFJ artists as I've gone along, but it wasn't until I got closer to one that I realized a huge clash. I don't think I can do creative-work with INFJ's.

    I remember two years ago I had a "fling" with a philosopher poet (INFJ), and it turned out hilarious. By hilarious I mean perplexingly stupid, but I always maintained a sense of tolerance for his art. From my art at the time, I realize I swung more critically to develop form. My mentor would also slip me notes, at the time of dating the INFJ, saying "what is this drivel, your better than this." I never really thought much about personality though.

    I realize there is some bias as the more-recent INFJ had mental health issues, and perhaps a cultural affinity which geared her towards taking things very personally. That may have been less personality, and more personal limit on capability. I also realize her genre and mediums were very different.

    Another group of artists I see quite often is xSFP's which I can usually work well with. They like the finished project, they like a challenge. Especially for the health arts, they capture great poise. In comparison I actually would rather be around SF artists. For some reason, as and INTJ I also don't feel threatened or threatening around xSFP sexuality, especially in the health arts like photography, modelling, yoga, dance, or other physical forms.

    Please discuss. I don't mind if anyone has anything mean to say, as long as it isn't a personal attack. Sometimes being critical allows us to learn more. I'll post this in INTJ and INFJ forums.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Art is an expression form, right? If you don't let others intervene on that expression and you just express what you want, then it's fine. Trying new things can help expand your horizon.

    Sometimes art when producing for a specific population must be geared to their standards, not that of the people who intervene on your process (unless they're your audience). Variety in skill can make you an amazing artist that can cater to many people as well as their tastes and preferences.

    I still wonder what kind of clash ocurred between you and the INFJ artists you met. Sometimes it takes quite an amount of skill and maturity to make great experiences in dealings with other people. That being said, perhaps the maturity and stability of the people you met are questionable. Intervening for one sounds rude (although I'm not quite sure how the intervening you experienced happened).

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    INFJ - The Protectors


    I've worked with a few other musicians that were other types...I think the drummer was the only other INFJ...I do believe the guitarist was INTJ. He was much more detailed in playing style. Much more technical than I. However, I found that to be a strength to our group. We all got along...a lot of times our thoughts clashed on how certain bars should go or what not.

    We all understood each other better once we showed our ideas to each other rather than talk about them. I think the key for our good chemistry was a general respect for each other while still having tough skin in terms of criticism. Even if we didn't agree on things, we still respected each other's ideas.

    We often took votes on things, so respect often entailed killing our pride if our idea lost in a vote. If the majority vote was someone else's idea over my own, it took respecting that and playing something someone else's way to the best of my abilities. Having a mindset like that took having a general respect for that person and humility.
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    I'm glad some INFJs responded.

    What I learned from the INTJ version of this thread was that were basically:

    -INTJ goals and inner-processing for art are different then INFJ, but they often see things through similar means.
    -INTJ criticism, or even approach to issues, can be abrasive. Ethically, (Be careful what you ask for).
    -INTJ will not be interested in the personal semantics of art, it's usually about an intellectual or technical form.

    What I personally realized after doing some research in INFJ and watching some interaction videos on youtube was that I didn't know INFJ very well at all. I realize the INFJ I met was not a very good example because she was not as smart or--together as the ones I found. Some of the points I mentioned above about INTJ were definitely triggers on the surface, but I am pretty sure most INFJ's wouldn't have reacted the same due to things like stability and maturity.

    I wonder how INFJ would generally react to the INTJ traits, or what traits they themselves display strongly in contrast? ':p

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyricalWhip View Post
    We often took votes on things, so respect often entailed killing our pride if our idea lost in a vote. If the majority vote was someone else's idea over my own, it took respecting that and playing something someone else's way to the best of my abilities. Having a mindset like that took having a general respect for that person and humility.
    I like this idea. Actually I enjoy thinking about principles of fairness quite a bit, but I realize that there is a difference between objective ethics and subjective ethics. (I'd like to learn more actually,) But an example of the subjective ethic, if someone really doesn't like the people or trust the people voting they may choose not to participate. The objective ethic would be more concerned that--hey they're voting! I've learned the hard way that I struggle with the subjective-kids. Hopefully this makes sense.
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