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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    INFJ/ISTP Cognitive Function Use

    I would like an INFJ’s perspective on the identical function parings for the INFJ and ISTP. How would having the pairings in different placement affect their relationships? I know I mistyped as INFJ for a couple of years before having the Step II assessment administered. After I revealed to the group that my results showed INTP, they concurred that my thinking was too prevalent to be INFJ.

    There are two things that I have come to understand over the years. INFJs are the most conceptual feeling types and ISTPs are the most analytical sensing types. Clearly many ISTPs mistype as NT, but I think INFJs do as well. In fact the INFJs that I hung out with before the forums came to existence would constantly be banned from groups. Based on Dario Nardi the tandem usage could go something like this for INFJ:
    Introverted Intuiting

    We might try out various tangible experiences and activities to catalyze realizations for growth. The more varied and undigested experiences one has, the more material there is for the unconscious to draw upon. We might look inward to envision how we can transform something, then gather data and take actions to realize that goal—to make real what is envisioned. For example, we might visualize how people will one day journey into space, and then take the actions necessary to design and build a spaceship to accomplish that goal. This might take many years of action, including activities to sustain the vision. Another tandem relationship involves engaging in a physical activity so that body, mind, and environment merge to become one, perhaps experiencing a great sense of calm or energy.

    Extraverted Feeling

    We can connect with others by following guidelines about appropriate behavior. We may follow principles of fair play or the Golden Rule—a general framework for all our transactions with others. We might locate leverage points in a situation to help everyone get what they need in the most affirming and fair way possible, or leverage our range of social contacts to get help or to interact with someone we wouldn’t normally have access to. Or we might mediate a dispute between two parties: we observe from multiple angles to fully see every side and give a fair hearing as we fit their claims with a framework to arrive at a decision.
    For the ISTP it may go something like this:
    Introverted Thinking

    We can get impressive results using introverted Thinking in tandem with extraverted Feeling. We might draw on a nugget of reasoning or theoretical framework to make adjustments for the welfare of others or the good of the group. Applying principles of human behavior and applying leverage at key points can help us to manage divergent values, feelings, and opinions. We might nurture relationships with a network of respected peers while clarifying a framework, or disclose personal data to gain clarity and precision for a topic. Or we might feel passionate about the value of people everywhere learning to use a particular framework as a problem-solving tool to improve human relationships. We communicate this framework to others as a helpful gift.

    Extraverted Sensing

    We can get powerful results using extraverted Sensing in tandem with introverted Intuiting. We can be very tuned in to the surrounding environment, with anticipation of what’s coming next. We may constantly read our industry’s current news to be sure to catch the next wave of innovations. Or we can engage people in fun activities, drawing them out and helping them transform themselves. We might pull a shy person onto the dance floor, convinced that there is an inner dancer waiting to be released; that person experiences his or her potential firsthand. Or we might shape the current context to what we envision it can be, like a sculptor who can “see” the final statue within a chunk of marble and sculpts everything else away to get to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Functianalyst View Post
    I would like an INFJ’s perspective on the identical function parings for the INFJ and ISTP. How would having the pairings in different placement affect their relationships? I know I mistyped as INFJ for a couple of years before having the Step II assessment administered. After I revealed to the group that my results showed INTP, they concurred that my thinking was too prevalent to be INFJ.

    There are two things that I have come to understand over the years. INFJs are the most conceptual feeling types and ISTPs are the most analytical sensing types. Clearly many ISTPs mistype as NT, but I think INFJs do as well. In fact the INFJs that I hung out with before the forums came to existence would constantly be banned from groups. Based on Dario Nardi the tandem usage could go something like this for INFJ:For the ISTP it may go something like this:

    So this was kind of hard for me to understand...

    but you spent a year and a half as another type.

    this information makes me feel a little bit better considering I have no idea in a 100% fashion, what my type is.

    I thought ENFP for a while, but didn't know much about the test except I used it to get a list of careers.
    but was reading the descriptions of the types and INFJ sounded like me, I felt that way my whole life, but still think I might not be.
    maybe I misconstrued something within myself.

    my dad is an INTP.
    which is close to me and he just has an array of beneficial information for me,
    just random facts and stuff.
    I also like hangin out with my ESTP friend (maybe ISTP) who is a really sweet and caring individual, is helping me go to the gym and stuff,
    sounds kinds like dancefloor example come to think of it.
    he gets people included all the time, asks for my opinion about things, looks up to me more than other friends...
    our weaknessess are somewhat the others strengths
    but we still both have good intentions.
    which in reality is the most important thing.

    mine however are more grand scheme and less focused on myself, but more so on the issues of individuals I have met and my future position in the world to help those future people like my friends to have better lives, and/or deal with problems that are similar to ones I have seen detrimental to my visioned society.

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    We have been led to believe that our tertiary and fourth functions are our weaker functions, but in reality we use all 8. The tertiary is our third most developed function and the fourth function is just that.

    Maybe this helps understand the process better:

    Extraverted Perceiving (Se/Ne) - Both used to take in information from the external world. We cannot use them both equally, so one is in good use, the other is not.

    Introverted Perceiving (Si-Ni) – Both are used to give us impressions. One allows us to use impressions of the past, in detail. The other allows us use of impressions of future possibilities. They cannot be used equally as well.

    Extraverted Judging (Te-Fe) – Both are used to make decisions based on external stimuli. One is based on empirical information and the other considers the human factor.

    Introverted Judging (Ti-Fi) - Both are used to make internal decisions either based on the principles of a matter or our own values. One is used better than the other.

    So for INFJ and ISTP, we both use a specific four functions for daily living (Ni-Fe-Ti-Se) and have to consciously develop the other four (Ne-Fi-Te-Si).

    INJs believe that they have little use of Se when really they use it better than SJs. Ti is used better by INFJ than INTJs.


 

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