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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Infj and Intj difference question

    Are the only things different about the two are:

    Infj's show their true feelings when they are alone when someone that they can trust, where as the Intj's will hide their feelings all the time.

    And that Infj's gravitate toward english and arts (I have a strong Ti, so I think that's why I'm so good at math and science) while the Intj's gravitate toward science and technology? (This is why I thought I was an Intj when I first started, my T/F scale is near the middle)

    These are the only things right now that I can pull from off the top of my head.
    Would anyone else care to elaborate?
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    have you met an intj?

    we're pretty different.

    the most notable difference is empathy though. INFJs have almost too much, INTJs are much colder.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    No....I have never meet an Intj.
    Lol....so thats why I was going off of the description.
    Although, there is a chance my mom is one.
    My dad is an ESTJ. But we havent found out about my mom.
    But I know that I act like my mom more than my dad.(He used to get in trouble by the teachers from running his mouth too much.)
    For all I know.....she could be an Infj.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    My dad's an intj. The relationship is awesome.
    Yeah, they are much much colder and much more...harsh.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    haha, oh ok, musun.

    there's always a level of understanding between the two types.

    intj's are colder, as i mentioned, and also, in person, usually more awkward of interpersonal dynamics. an intj i know, for example, has a tough time reading when people are bored or not interested in her stories. so she'll continue talking even after a conversation should have ended. along with being colder there's a general lack of sympathy, and a lack of caring about people, and their problems. also, i notice that they have pockets of expertise in certain subjects - whether that is math, technology, anime, german culture, etc, it doesn't matter... ask about a subject, and it will be difficult to get them to stop talking.
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    INFJ - The Protectors


    This is by no means accurate, they are just my observations, please feel free to differ.

    INFJ = personal, feels people, sees subtle social cues, likes emotionally charged movies, likes varied music, eclectic, calms down situations and bridges the differences(passive stance), appeasement, likes playing with abstractions.

    INTJ = impersonal, understands people, sees social dynamic, likes thinky movies, likes certain similar genres, refined, accepts conflicts and resolves problems(aggressive stance), advocation, likes playing with complexities.

    Both seek harmony (I think)
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    1.) Infj's show their true feelings when they are alone when someone that they can trust, where as the Intj's will hide their feelings all the time.

    This is common, but not absolute. INTJs can reveal feelings, but it seems they don't feel the need to as much as INFJs do. INFJs seem to be able to use their true feelings as a more necessary tool/approach/method/[insert 101 official PerCafe terms here] to identifying with others. In a way, it's much more of a hidden lifestyle for an INFJ than for an INTJ.

    2.) And that Infj's gravitate toward english and arts (I have a strong Ti, so I think that's why I'm so good at math and science) while the Intj's gravitate toward science and technology? (This is why I thought I was an Intj when I first started, my T/F scale is near the middle)

    I've never been a huge fan of English and Art, and naturally gravitate towards more technical topics. I don't think interests are type-specific. I know plenty of people with high Fe and lower Ti that do swimmingly in Math/Sciences as well, so I don't find that claim to be terribly accurate. (If only more T types were half as undeniably genius as they claimed to be on this forum, and if only more F types were good at love poetry, we might have a revelation on our hands. )
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    I used think I was an INTJ, probably because I suppressed my feelings when I was younger, and so my tertiary funcion Ti was used more. I used to feel oblivious to social cues compared to others. However after reading some threads on the INTJ forum, I know that I am not an INTJ, they seem to be even more oblivious to social cues, such as how to tell if someone likes you.

    I sort of know one INTJ in real life and he spent an afternoon calculating pi. I find that pretty cool, yet it's not something that I would find amusing enough for a whole afternoon.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by musun69 View Post
    Are the only things different about the two are:

    Infj's show their true feelings when they are alone when someone that they can trust, where as the Intj's will hide their feelings all the time.
    Not true. We're very similar to INFJ in this respect, especially a mature INTJ. Only special people get to see us vent our Fi. Usually it's piggybacking off of Te though.

    Quote Originally Posted by musun69 View Post
    And that Infj's gravitate toward english and arts (I have a strong Ti, so I think that's why I'm so good at math and science) while the Intj's gravitate toward science and technology? (This is why I thought I was an Intj when I first started, my T/F scale is near the middle)
    Not necessarily true either. C.S. Lewis was an INTJ, so was Stanley Kubrick. I also know an INFJ computer scientist.
    INTJs can also be pretty philosophical sometimes. Some of us also make pretty good use of Ne and Ti... so abstractions aren't out of the question.

    I would say the biggest difference is in the Te vs. Fe.

    We're rational to a fault. We like relating to things as objects. We like to organize things and categorize them to fit into our designs for the world. Our thinking mainly comes from the inside and directs the outside.

    Fe on the other hand I believe gets it's energy from the outside and goes inward.
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    INTJs don't hide their feelings. They really really do experience fewer feelings than us because it appears that they do not develop feelings spontaneously. There was a discussion on INTJ forum about empathy and I commented that I've noticed that an INTJ needs some sort of a reason to feel. And some INTJs commented that this is indeed the case. For them it goes observation -> thoughts/thoughts/thoughts/analysis -> may be a feeling i.e. it is a long way to the feeling part. Us F-types develop many feelings spontaneously. We tend to first feel only afterwards develop thoughts and some sort of analysis about it. Feelings just pop into our mind whether we want it or not. We cannot interact with others and not automatically feel what they feel unless we try to consciously repress it. INTJs go around life not feeling what others feel unless they try to consciously develop this kind of knowledge.

    Often time they will not find a reason for this kind of analysis. More introverted individuals of their type especially so. They would experience social situations and reasons to ponder about them very infrequently and can even feel that people are boring and uninteresting. For them having to deal with people can become a sort of a nuisance - having to think about other people's emotion relationships to figure out how one should respond subtracts valuable resources and time from things they are really interested in.

    Just like INFJs they make extensive use of their Ni to build up sort of a database of experiences and observations, ideas, theories, and connections to figure out reality how it really is. But because they have much less experience and interest in dealing with emotions than us, their Ni database is often deficient in this respect. This is why we see them using their feeling so clumsily and often misreading feelings of others. For example, the INTJs in my family sometimes completely miscalculate the way that I feel, which has amazed me because after living with same individual under same roof for over a decade I take it for granted that one will develop a deep understanding of that person's emotions and motives. But it is because throughout their life, INTJs genuinely lack interest in processing information regarding other people and relationships and feelings. So the model of how the world works that their Ni builds up is simply lacking these data packets that have to deal with people's relations and emotions. Instead it contains extensive data packets on subjects that genuinely interest them (like cars, science, law, philosophy) about which they can talk in great detail for hours. This is also why they can appear to be so emotionally clumsy to us. The less intelligent members of their type whose Ni and Te aren't working well can simply come off as immature.

    Things like boredom vs interest - the deciding factors between what bores you vs what interests you are actually also determined in part by your cognitive phenotype. So not having much interest in people, and even finding people boring and a nuisance to deal with, INTJs do tend to gravitate towards subjects like physical sciences and engineering. This is not clear-cut division because there are INTJs who develop an interest in analyzing people and can become investigators of human nature, but you will sense that they would treat people sort of like objects and their analyses will be very impersonal, and can even come off as sounding rude to us. And there are INFJs who are Ni/Ti dominant who will behave alike INTJs, think objectively and closely analyze everything they encounter. Such INFJs who are Ni/Ti dominant will actually feel an interest in stereotypical INTJ subjects. The INFJs with dominant Fe are more likely to gravitate towards things like art, theater, literature, social work and religion.

    Both INFJs and INTJs are Ni dominants, so we can relate on this basis very well. We are also both introverted and need plenty of time spent alone and tend not to stress each other in the way that extraverts can stress us out. As long as one type puts in effort into trying to become more sensitive to social cues and the second type tries to be more objective and analytical, we can actually get along pretty well with them.
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