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This is a discussion on Random thoughts.... see how other INFJs respond... within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I watched the "Decision Points" interview tonight and I must say that George W Bush's interview with Matt Lauer was ...

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Random thoughts.... see how other INFJs respond...

    I watched the "Decision Points" interview tonight and I must say that George W Bush's interview with Matt Lauer was admirable. It truly takes a lot of guts for anyone to have a job that is in the public eye because it is subject to a lot of criticism with little reward. Unfortunately we live in a society where people would rather criticize than respect.
    Then we wonder why our kids act the way they do.... I digress. This society of the US would rather be disrespectful hypocrites. Why can't we ever just say "Wow, it took this ONE person a lot of guts to have one of the most difficult jobs you could have in this world. We should admire them for stepping up to take that huge risk and doing more than what most of us will ever achieve in our lives."

    What has happened to respect and admiration in this world? Instead all we do is point fingers at one another and criticize. Honestly, I don't think its getting any better for future generations either.

    Do other people see this or am I shooting in the dark?
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    INFJ - The Protectors


    Quote Originally Posted by thegirlcandance View Post
    I watched the "Decision Points" interview tonight and I must say that George W Bush's interview with Matt Lauer was admirable. It truly takes a lot of guts for anyone to have a job that is in the public eye because it is subject to a lot of criticism with little reward. Unfortunately we live in a society where people would rather criticize than respect.
    Then we wonder why our kids act the way they do.... I digress. This society of the US would rather be disrespectful hypocrites. Why can't we ever just say "Wow, it took this ONE person a lot of guts to have one of the most difficult jobs you could have in this world. We should admire them for stepping up to take that huge risk and doing more than what most of us will ever achieve in our lives."

    What has happened to respect and admiration in this world? Instead all we do is point fingers at one another and criticize. Honestly, I don't think its getting any better for future generations either.

    Do other people see this or am I shooting in the dark?
    I saw the interview too.

    I would not have watched it except for the fact that my grandmother wanted to see it.

    I don't particularly trust politicians, so I'm not sure that I would be able to read Bush's book without thinking that some of what he writes isn't the entire truth.

    Anyone who is in the public eye has to be prepared for criticisim. These people are not even granted the same rights as "private persons" in America.

    But yes, I get annoyed with how naive people can be when it comes to politics. I live in the South, and I cannot possibly convince anyone here that Obama is not a Muslim. It seems like nobody I know READS anything except me. They just go by word of mouth.

    Political campaigns are nothing more than childish mud slinging, and I don't even trust that all of the mud slinging is true. Then they will give speechs and only a fairly small number of people even watch them, but I can't trust them to tell the truth during that either. They will say what they think they need to say to get elected. I have a friend who is REALLY into politics, and he says that you have to research the way that the politicians vote on issues. You can't just go by what they say. For me, this makes everything I hear about them from the media pointless.

    So, do I agree with you that we should respect them? No. I don't think most of them have earned it. I must admit though that I like Obama's idea about Democrates and Republicans working together on issues, which I would like to think is not just said for the sake of the cameras, but who knows?

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    In order to receive respect, one needs to have it within theirself and then give it.

    As for politics, it is very hard...being that money talks, walks and all that jazz.

    As for Obama...he has no choice but to try and work with Republicans now.

    There is too much to say here...me and politics have issues...politics irritates me...the world is screwed up politically speaking!

    As for US society being disrespectful hypocrites, I believe that the US society is just weary in how the US government opperates and where the US government is going.

    Darn, I just couldn't stop myself! I'm going to now!

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    What hit me during that interview was when George W made a comment about how no matter what he does, there is always going to be a critic... and I laughed when Matt Lauer made the comment immediately after that he could lose his job just because someone doesn't like his reporting.
    The part that hit me after that is that... what are we indirectly teaching our kids and future by being critical of those in authority? We are teaching them to not respect authority. So then we wonder why get kids in detentions, in school suspensions, and go to alternative school... but even then rather than the parents say "yes my child deserved this because they always disrupted class" the parent then questions it and complains to the school. Then what does that indirectly teach the kid? To argue with their teachers and principal and continue to be disruptive.

    Nobody has any respect for anyone anymore... it is sad and what we our teaching our future is only going to make the future worse.

    Does doing so give us ourselves dignity and admiration? I don't see how it would.

    Soon we'll be getting text messages via Fox News and MSNBC criticizing our leaders to put even more thoughts in our mind (whether true or not)... in fact, I'm sure some people already have that.


    The one line that George W Bush made that I found VERY admirable was when he said "I'm not going to criticize my successor (President Obama) because he has enough people critiquing him, so I'm not going to be one of them."

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    I agree that it takes a lot of guts for a person to stand up and take charge. However, I also believe that some who do take charge allow their own personal values and beliefs to cloud their judgement. For example when Bush pretty much said that God told him to invade Iraq...

    I can imagine that it must be difficult to please everyone, you do one thing and you are criticised and then you think if I had done it the other way I would have been criticised for that too.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    as weird as this is going to sound, while Bush was president I was utterly in love with him. And I still am. he has morals. he is strong amidst a world full of weak men who are all too willing to accommodate to the world. Bush did what he did and he did it for his own reasons, maybe its a backwards way to look at it but he has a strength of character and took HEAVY criticism from all sides. He is an OPEN christian is against abortion and attended christian gatherings. Im not even a christian and I value that, I loved listening to him speak because even in the way he carries his words, there is strength and THAT is my weakness, hahaha a strong man. And I agree with OP, there is very little respect going around. I am sometimes repulsed by the complete lack of moral consciousness in our society. I think that is the way of the world though. we go through an overly moral and religious phase and then the boundaries are pushed in the next generation and then eventually we bounce back because we grow tired of the lack of boundaries.
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    Any position of authority should be held accountable for their actions but do we see that done to Bush? No, criticism of bad policies to say the least is never enough because that opens to the ones after him to do what they want without enough accountability.

    The man said “damn right” to torture. There is nothing to respect there and his policies and lies led to wars where scores of people died.

    I really dislike politicians and for someone like Bush to make money (like Blair) while people suffer because of them that is a really big injustice.

    P.S: I'm not directing my words towards anyone but just sharing my opinion.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    No offense, but it's kind of hard to respect someone who should be tried for war crimes. Sure, I respect the position of President no matter if I agree with a specific president's policies, and of course it is a high position. However, being complacent and just following authority because it is an authority is a much, much greater offense than criticizing someone who has committed crimes against humanity.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by thegirlcandance View Post
    I watched the "Decision Points" interview tonight and I must say that George W Bush's interview with Matt Lauer was admirable. It truly takes a lot of guts for anyone to have a job that is in the public eye because it is subject to a lot of criticism with little reward. Unfortunately we live in a society where people would rather criticize than respect.
    Then we wonder why our kids act the way they do.... I digress. This society of the US would rather be disrespectful hypocrites. Why can't we ever just say "Wow, it took this ONE person a lot of guts to have one of the most difficult jobs you could have in this world. We should admire them for stepping up to take that huge risk and doing more than what most of us will ever achieve in our lives."

    What has happened to respect and admiration in this world? Instead all we do is point fingers at one another and criticize. Honestly, I don't think its getting any better for future generations either.

    Do other people see this or am I shooting in the dark?
    Definitely, I agree. I think the major fault I have with GWB is that he never really admitted his mistakes while he was in office. I think a good leader should acknowledge the mistakes, apologize if necessary, and then move on. People make mistakes all the time. And I think especially in that position, the buck stops with you... so even if it wasn't technically your mistake, accept responsibility and move on.

    I would've had a lot more respect for him while in office if he had given a frank interview about things. Like, yeah, we screwed up during Katrina, I apologize, and move on. Instead, he kind of retreated, and didn't speak on the topic.

    The Matt Lauer interview was great, and it certainly makes him appear more humble. It also seems like he understands where he screwed up... but is still hesitant to apologize for things. The man has many positives, but I think he often doesn't truly understand that he's made some mistakes.

    I also love that he's staying out of commenting on Obama's job, just out of respect for the position.
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    Wasn't he stealing votes during the elections or something? I don't much about US politics, I don't live there, but I saw an interview of Thom York talking about this...he said that some reporters he knows were getting threats in their own houses not to tell about this...

    I know Bush was mostly criticized for looking stupid, but it looks to me like it was just the media's way of releasing some steam at him...

    BTW I think that mainly psychopaths would want to deal with that much power...I'm naturally suspicious of people who are in positions of power...


     
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