[INFJ] Psychological disorders and INFJs (mood disorders, personality disorders, etc.).

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This is a discussion on Psychological disorders and INFJs (mood disorders, personality disorders, etc.). within the INFJ Forum - The Protectors forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; I'm breaking my own rule here (see my thread on "I like the color pink. Do others INFJs like the ...

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Psychological disorders and INFJs (mood disorders, personality disorders, etc.).

    I'm breaking my own rule here (see my thread on "I like the color pink. Do others INFJs like the color pink?" I was linking to it, but I can't link yet.), but meh, I've always prided myself on being a hypocrite.

    This thread is for INFJs with psychological disorders to discuss and compare how they react to said disorders.

    I've been depressed for three or four years now, and I've noticed that as my depression goes on, I've become more self-obsessed and inward-focused (whereas prior to my depression, I was very into helping people, etc.).

    Sorta interesting to me how my depression has spiraled. Heh. Sounds kinda morbid though, so I'll change the subject suddenly and in all caps.

    TELL ME ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH MOOD AND PERSONALITY DISORDERS, INFJ'S. WE ARE NOT BROTHERS IN BLOOD, BUT BROTHERS IN MEYERS-BRIGG PERSONALITY TYPE.

    James
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    Unknown Personality

    Haha! I absolutely embrace your hypocriticality (not a word, sorry)!

    Well I'm diagnosed with cyclothymia (mild bipolar) but I don't agree, I think I'm common garden anxious myself. It depends how bad things are but I get very self-indulgent and obsessive when I'm unhappy. I hate this, I always feel embarrassed and guilty - it just makes things worse. I suddenly hear myself talking about myself for like an hour and I feel so embarrassed. You can't help it, though, when you've got so much going on in your head.

    When anxious I "flip out" (my bf's words) and have sudden panics about issues that seem completely real at the time but, a few hours later, I'll be able to tell they're stupid.

    In the past, the disorder has shown itself in different ways:
    age 4-12: Scary aural hallucinations, extreme anger but never showed it, arrogance, deliberate withdrawal from society (or rather kids my age) - finally made friends when I was 11.
    12-19 - Eating disorders and social phobia (mood swings start at 18 but I still don't think they're of the bipolar variety!) Severe depression.
    19-20 - agoraphobia - also work myself into the ground and burn out.
    20-22 - Extreme obsessiveness - over people, actions, things. Start worrying that my drinks will be spiked, I will be poisoned or drugged. Eventually become so obsessed with it people around me can't deal with it anymore!
    22-24 - more obsessiveness but not as bad - psychosomatic illness (A LOT OF THEM!) Tons of sick leave, feel physically unwell a lot of the time. Jealousy.

    Oh yeah, anger and frustration are the main two emotions all the way through my life. Generally a perfectionist, worried about how weird I am all the time, very anxious to be as good a person as I can be - VERY self-absorbed! I think quite a lot of people would say I was arrogant as well but I can't decide.

    Sorry if this didn't answer your question. I guess my point was that my symptoms and the way I react changes all the time as I get older. I think I am managing it much better nowadays, though - I have friends and I'm keeping a job down, I go outside more, hygiene is good etc etc. Mood stabilisers more helpful than SSRIs definitely (still not proof of bipolar, though, they are used for a wide range of illnesses).
    Last edited by ukinfj; 05-09-2011 at 07:24 AM.

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    I had some anxiety as a child, but mainly it was overload due to my autism. I developed delay-onset PTSD due to abuse in childhood. At the same time I developed other anxiety problems and bipolar. First I had a hypomanic episode at 18 1/2, then a depression episode/anxiety/PTSD at 19. I had body dysmorphia since around the same time and developed anorexia in my early 20's and went inpatient a few years ago. I have pretty severe bipolar and have to take Zyprexa for it (a medication most people hate).

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    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by unico View Post
    I had some anxiety as a child, but mainly it was overload due to my autism. I developed delay-onset PTSD due to abuse in childhood. At the same time I developed other anxiety problems and bipolar. First I had a hypomanic episode at 18 1/2, then a depression episode/anxiety/PTSD at 19. I had body dysmorphia since around the same time and developed anorexia in my early 20's and went inpatient a few years ago. I have pretty severe bipolar and have to take Zyprexa for it (a medication most people hate).
    I really feel for you. I can't imagine what it must be like to have bipolar like that. Although, as I do know what it's like to be anorexic, good luck and keep trying :=) I'm living proof it's beatable and I know we all have it in us.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    You know what? I can't relate to someone unless they think there's something wrong with themselves.

    “I don’t think anybody should go through life without a team of psychologists. I have been through times when I’m literally squatting in the living room, having one of those open-throated cries, where you’re crying all the way to your butthole. I always believed I would come out of it, though.”

    -- Jim Carrey
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    We can be brothers in hypocrisy as well ^^

    I have much admiration for the other sufferers in this thread.



    So...Anxiety Disorder (panic attacks and OCD), represent!

    I had a bad time when I was first diagnosed, which was actually largely to do with my depressed mother who had an odd kind of 'I'm the mentally disturbed one in this family!' mentality and therefore didn't really believe me when I came home announcing I'd been diagnosed with OCD. Even after she accepted it, she has always related my experience to her own and I think takes my issues less seriously then she otherwise might have. Actually it sounds kind of like what you were describing @Invision . I guess this is a common feature of depression? I figure she's not doing it on purpose so I just let it be.

    I find these days I can cope just fine and apart from that potentially awkward moment when I "come out" to someone as an OCD sufferer, it doesn't really affect my life. Actively fighting my disorders and winning makes me feel stronger and when I compare how much progress I've made in the last four years I feel proud and happy. I feel like my psychologist gave me my life back and I'm grateful every day for it. So I guess I'm a happier person for all of this crap.

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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Well I've never went to a doctor for any mental issues or mood disorders, but I was a phone call away from checking myself into a hospital because I felt like I didn't want to live anymore. Which is kind of hypocritical right there, if I truly wanted to not live anymore I wouldn't bother feeling like I needed to call a hospital.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokahey View Post
    Well I've never went to a doctor for any mental issues or mood disorders, but I was a phone call away from checking myself into a hospital because I felt like I didn't want to live anymore. Which is kind of hypocritical right there, if I truly wanted to not live anymore I wouldn't bother feeling like I needed to call a hospital.
    Dude, I don't think that's hypocritical at all-- it's just healthy and sane! You had enough self-awareness to realize at some level that your state of mind, however horrible it was, was transient, and you wanted to call for help because you knew you might do something unwise. You knew enough not to make a permanent decision based on temporary issues! I hope you'll do the same if you ever feel that way again.

    I've never felt that I would kill myself, but I've had periods of depression during which I have thought about dying nearly every day. The toughest thing about depression and many anxiety disorders, IMO, is the cognitive distortion that occurs and convinces you that not only are you unhappy now, but that you've never been happy and you'll never be happy at any point in the future. I have atypical depression, which is a particularly reactive form of the disease: I could feel a bit better for a while if something good happened, like going on vacation, or feel like dying if someone criticized me or I screwed something up. I went to therapy for years, and because of this reactivity, it was hard to convince my doctor I was actually depressed. I've been taking Wellbutrin for a year and it's really helped. I wouldn't say I never feel depressed anymore, but since I've been on the meds, I feel more in charge and more able to "snap out of it" if you know what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspera View Post
    Even after she accepted it, she has always related my experience to her own and I think takes my issues less seriously then she otherwise might have. Actually it sounds kind of like what you were describing @Invision . I guess this is a common feature of depression?
    My sister-in-law has severe OCD (she voluntarily institutionalized herself for a summer when she was 23), and Aspera, I've gotta tell you, I admire you so much for dealing with this disorder. It is such a bitch. My SIL is one of the bravest people I know. And it's all the more difficult to "come out" about because it's so little understood. People think they know what it is, but they have misconceptions. So, Respect, Girl.

    To respond to your query about depression (and I realize you were primarily addressing Invision, but I'm always happy to butt in), I would agree with @Invision that it does make one more inward-focused (I was living in my head and stuck in this loop of negative thought and feeling), but depression, like OCD and other mental health issues, is as diverse as the people who can develop it. During my darkest times, most of my friends had no idea I was suffering at all, and continued to come to me with their problems. I performed well at work, I did volunteer hours on the side, and I took classes for my Master's degree. I'm sorry your mom is not as sympathetic toward your problems as she should be. I know something about having a mom who is more focused on herself than on her children. But it's probably just the way her depression works. The way a depressed person behaves is based on their normal, healthy personality, their current life circumstances, and the severity and duration of the depressive episode.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by Elinor Dashwood View Post
    Dude, I don't think that's hypocritical at all-- it's just healthy and sane! You had enough self-awareness to realize at some level that your state of mind, however horrible it was, was transient, and you wanted to call for help because you knew you might do something unwise. You knew enough not to make a permanent decision based on temporary issues! I hope you'll do the same if you ever feel that way again.
    Well I guess more or less the words are hypocritical more than the actions. I mean I'm glad it didn't come to that. I just mean if I "truly" wanted to do it, no one would know and it would just happen. But I mean, I haven't existed as this form for the billions of years (our time) that the universe has existed, so why throw away the mere 70 to 80ish (hopefully) years I have of existence. So deep down is a rooted seed of survival.

    Edit: Oh, I also have OCD and Claustrophobia slightly (not sure if that counts) there's probably other things I have but I've never gone to a doctor unless I was physically sick which isn't often actually. lol...
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