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    INFP - The Idealists

    INFP work and money and work and money and happiness or at least fake happiness?

    You always hear about people on tv talking about how much they love their jobs and how they got successful at it, but how often do you see that in real life when you're still in debt because of college fees and you. Okay, I'm horrible at making slippery slopes, but anyways here's my problem: I've been working as a pharmtech for a retail pharmacy for the last two years, while going to community college. Pretty soon I'll be transferring to a UC and it just seems like there's so much pressure to choose a major that will help with getting a good paying job instead of one that you're genuinely interested in. I have a lot of people telling me that I should follow what interests me and what I like, but so far it seems that these people are having trouble with money/finding jobs, or the jobs that they have currently don't have anything to do with what they wanted or they're still in school for over four years because they keep changing majors and don't have anything higher than a BA. I live in California and every time I turn on the TV it seems like everything in the economy is getting worse everyday. I have a lot of pressure myself to go the distance and actually becoming a pharmacist, but working two years in retail really takes its toll and I've become pretty bitter jaded and have prejudice tendencies now... so I'm not exactly sure if I want to do something like that as a career, although I am aware that there are jobs for pharmacists they don't have anything to do with patients, but that would mean that I would ONLY stand around counting pills all day... or research for some big pharmaceutical company that does inhumane tests on kids in Africa and chimps or something...My current major that is on my mind is cultural anthropology. Used to be ethnic studies, but that's just way too much social injustice for an INFP to put up with and eventually it all just builds up and makes you no know what to do anymore =/. Cultural anthropology has more of a broader spectrum and I haven't gotten bored with any of the subjects yet (except for the teachers) but like I said, the way things are now it doesn't seem like there's going to be much money into that unless I get into Applied anthropology... (for any of you who actually know what that is) and again, that would mean I'd have to whore myself to some corporation. I could be a professor, but I'm not exactly sure what the demand for that is yet... Basically what I want to do is write children's books... or cryptic not-so-children's books with a lot of social commentary...

    shout out to anyone who still remembers me from INFP.globalchatter :D
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    INFP - The Idealists

    To quote the man in my avatar:

    "Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

    I for one take that to heart.

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    ENFJ - The Givers


    I think that this is mainly an asian cultural problem....there are so many factors at work here, both psychological and societal. Truly you are the only one who can solve this problem, and think it through to the end that will bring happiness to you. I don't think any answer that we here could supply could help you in this dilemma. Think through what you want, and why you want those things, and the answer will stand before you.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by justinhammar View Post
    I think that this is mainly an asian cultural problem....there are so many factors at work here, both psychological and societal. Truly you are the only one who can solve this problem, and think it through to the end that will bring happiness to you. I don't think any answer that we here could supply could help you in this dilemma. Think through what you want, and why you want those things, and the answer will stand before you.

    not entirely asian.

    The United States is actually one of the most productive hardest working nations in the world. Because of this people are at a much higher risk to stress related problems (heart conditions, over eating, etc).
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    INFP - The Idealists

    WEll---thanks Tommy--your gift at sticking to school work makes me look far weaker by comparisoN:) Aside that----i also appear far weaker to those who go full plunge into a sitcome type career, or comedian or that one Utube comic show on the Comedy Central channel. As far as immoralness goes---i can understand that---i'd probably do it anyways, but find a way to punish myself in the way arts 4's with a intellectual 5 wing are described to do-- I imagine any type 2 would probably drink themselves to death like in the Movie "the Last King of Scottland", and that dictator dudes doctor felt so bleah with working for him.

    As far as competition goes; i like to humor about it:) My brother at times likes to dabble in anime, and wants to be a drawer for it. So i say the wearst possilbe mark against it, though never against myself perhaps? So I respond wiht---you must beat the competition----you must make an anime that sells to pedophiles--and that will have little competition.:0 no>Lol punchline i'm afraid:( Heh, but even with such competion, i wouldn't give up my fantasy---maybe someone more tough willed than myself--would preferably die a poor homeless man on the side walk than give up their fantasy. Poo the rest of us who have a tad more sanity and a lot more fear.

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    ENFJ - The Givers


    Say wut? Wut u tryin to say dere little pikmen buddie?

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    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by tofutommy View Post
    You always hear about people on tv talking about how much they love their jobs and how they got successful at it, but how often do you see that in real life when you're still in debt because of college fees and you. Okay, I'm horrible at making slippery slopes, but anyways here's my problem: I've been working as a pharmtech for a retail pharmacy for the last two years, while going to community college. Pretty soon I'll be transferring to a UC and it just seems like there's so much pressure to choose a major that will help with getting a good paying job instead of one that you're genuinely interested in. I have a lot of people telling me that I should follow what interests me and what I like, but so far it seems that these people are having trouble with money/finding jobs, or the jobs that they have currently don't have anything to do with what they wanted or they're still in school for over four years because they keep changing majors and don't have anything higher than a BA. I live in California and every time I turn on the TV it seems like everything in the economy is getting worse everyday. I have a lot of pressure myself to go the distance and actually becoming a pharmacist, but working two years in retail really takes its toll and I've become pretty bitter jaded and have prejudice tendencies now... so I'm not exactly sure if I want to do something like that as a career, although I am aware that there are jobs for pharmacists they don't have anything to do with patients, but that would mean that I would ONLY stand around counting pills all day... or research for some big pharmaceutical company that does inhumane tests on kids in Africa and chimps or something...My current major that is on my mind is cultural anthropology. Used to be ethnic studies, but that's just way too much social injustice for an INFP to put up with and eventually it all just builds up and makes you no know what to do anymore =/. Cultural anthropology has more of a broader spectrum and I haven't gotten bored with any of the subjects yet (except for the teachers) but like I said, the way things are now it doesn't seem like there's going to be much money into that unless I get into Applied anthropology... (for any of you who actually know what that is) and again, that would mean I'd have to whore myself to some corporation. I could be a professor, but I'm not exactly sure what the demand for that is yet... Basically what I want to do is write children's books... or cryptic not-so-children's books with a lot of social commentary...
    The key here is two things :

    a) you have to live somehow

    b) do what you love

    If you feel that you can live on a 'crappy' job and do the childrens writing in your sparetime that is one option. Even Einstein worked in a patents office full time, doing pointless admin while he was working on his physics theories in his sparetime and I guess he somehow found out what he was good at and something he enjoyed that could make a difference in some way.

    So don't go heading down the anthropology route if at the end of it, you won't feel anymore fufilled. Any job has it's asking price, I'm considering becoming a teacher, which has a bunch of paperwork nowadays alongside the great thing of actually teaching/inspiring (possibly) and helping a child find their calling in life. Same with any career, there will always be parts that are going to be less enjoyable, however can you stick through them whilst knowing that there are good parts?

    Also maybe look at careers there are in existence, and see what ones you feel you don't like, do like and then maybe. So you have three categories. Have a look in the ones you do like and see which ones of those are in demand and that you are good at, and enjoy doing. I know that I am capable of becoming an academic and if I got the funding and put my time in, I could possibly be a lecturer, much like what you are considering. However, I don't really want to dedicate myself to a job that is going to be as much research and writing papers as it is lecturing, again it has a price to pay, it's not just telling people the great ideas I know from philosophy and sociology. Also lecturers and university professors have worked hard to be where they are, and I hardly blame them for wanting to keep their ivory towers.

    Finally, work out what your core values are... What are the things that matter most to you?

    I like creativity, growth, leadership, learning, education and the arts. Then integrity, character, honesty, shrewdness, confidence, courage etc. When I finally sat down and thought that through, immediately something along a teaching path jumped out at me... So perhaps you may find a suitable path by working out what matters most to you in your life and on an 'abstract' level, I say abstract because you have to see the bigger picture to think about it, and then apply it to your life in the way that you feel gives you the best results.

    keep the faith, it's not all doom and gloom.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by gee8648 View Post
    To quote the man in my avatar:

    "Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war... our Great Depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very, very pissed off."

    I for one take that to heart.

    I like that quote. Not to be ignorant - but who said it? I don't recognize the picture.. .EDIT: OH its from fight club!! Just had divine revelation.

    Anyways, When I first started college I wanted to do something with computers, I checked out the computer science dept. and within 5 minutes knew it wasn't for me. So I started talking to a counselor at the University and she swayed me to check out business. She urged me to go forward towards an HR/IS business degree because those are in huge demand and pay well. Pretty much she told me to chase the job in demand that pays well.

    Horrible mistake. I wasted 3 years of collge, countless amounts of money, and now i'm wallowing in debt and only recently found the degree I want to pursue. Follow what you love, the money will follow.

    cultural anthropology would be something that I think any INFP would love to study. If you chase that you can get your BA in that and then if you want to chase the $$ then follow up with a masters in like marketing or something.

    Let me reemphasize my point: follow what you love. Take some time to figure out what you want, why you want it and what interests you. Don't feel pressure to find a degree right away. One thing I am glad about the 3 years I "wasted" in school is I found new hobbies, friends and it wisened me up so I'm 100% ready to dive into my degree. I have a close friend who dove right away into a degree. He graduates this semester in Finance. but he hates what he is studying and doesn't want to follow it. So now he's probably going back for another unrelated degree (probably in medical/health)
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    i can assure you,i would not "love" to study cultural anthropology. in fact i would probably hate it. i took a class on it and it was depressing and horrible.(i am an INFP btw) i know another INFP who was majoring in it but ended up switching to archeology because the cultural anthro stuff was too ridiculous for her... lol

    juuuuuuuuus sayin....

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by gloosle View Post
    cultural anthropology would be something that I think any INFP would love to study. If you chase that you can get your BA in that and then if you want to chase the $$ then follow up with a masters in like marketing or something.
    well.. I decided for myself that if I was goin to major in something I was genuinely interested in, I would definitely go for a PhD. Applied anthropology is the branch that goes into marketing and to be honest, after working for a coorperation for the last two years of my life I would really like to stay the FUCK away from them. Basically the only rule in corperations: "there are no morals, only profit" I forgot who wrote that essay =/ but it really is the truth.


     
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