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This is a discussion on Thread of Random Thoughts and Ideas within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; @ Morpheus83 , I think there's been shows like that in various countries, and it seems rather prevalent in Japan ...

  1. #24081

    @Morpheus83 ,


    I think there's been shows like that in various countries, and it seems rather prevalent in Japan where (especially on reality prank shows) they have a group of various forms of celebrities watch along with both the studio audience and at home viewers while making commentary about it.


    I've never heard of Gogglebox, so I'm not sure if that's something you made up, but something also similar to what you described was available as an option on Blu-ray discs where you could record and upload yourself making commentary as the movie plays, and then others could watch it while they watched the movie.

    It was a cool concept, but you can imagine some of the possibilities of the more "trolling" inclined people who decided to upload their own commentary onto the Blu-ray, especially when video rental stores would rent them out!
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  2. #24082
    Unknown Personality


    Quote Originally Posted by Sage del Viento View Post
    @Morpheus83 ,


    I think there's been shows like that in various countries, and it seems rather prevalent in Japan where (especially on reality prank shows) they have a group of various forms of celebrities watch along with both the studio audience and at home viewers while making commentary about it.


    I've never heard of Gogglebox, so I'm not sure if that's something you made up, but something also similar to what you described was available as an option on Blu-ray discs where you could record and upload yourself making commentary as the movie plays, and then others could watch it while they watched the movie.

    It was a cool concept, but you can imagine some of the possibilities of the more "trolling" inclined people who decided to upload their own commentary onto the Blu-ray, especially when video rental stores would rent them out!
    Haha :P Here's an article about Gogglebox: Have you been watching … Gogglebox? | Television & radio | The Guardian We're going to have an Oz version sometime soon.

    I think what's 'different' about Gogglebox compared to other 'reality' shows featuring audience reactions to something 'on stage' is that the former doesn't privilege a narrative (like on prank shows where the audience reaction is seen as 'extra' as well as 'separate' from the main 'spectacle'). It seems like Gogglebox is a drama in itself: how an audience reacts to something is its own narrative that's juxtaposed and intertwined with what's happening 'on screen'.

  3. #24083

    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus83 View Post
    Haha :P Here's an article about Gogglebox: Have you been watching … Gogglebox? | Television & radio | The Guardian We're going to have an Oz version sometime soon.

    I think what's 'different' about Gogglebox compared to other 'reality' shows featuring audience reactions to something 'on stage' is that the former doesn't privilege a narrative (like on prank shows where the audience reaction is seen as 'extra' as well as 'separate' from the main 'spectacle'). It seems like Gogglebox is a drama in itself: how an audience reacts to something is its own narrative that's juxtaposed and intertwined with what's happening 'on screen'.

    Oh wow!

    That certainly is... different is really the only word that comes to mind.


    I wasn't trying to call what you said into question I should add.

    I went back over my last post and, I don't know, my response about Gogglebox seemed a bit terse when I reread it. I have never heard of such a thing before.


    So it's simply just watching someone as they react to watching something? Like, we don't watch along with them, but simply solely their reactions and commentary?
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  4. #24084
    INFP - The Idealists


    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus83 View Post
    So somebody has come up with the pomo concept of a tv 'reality' show about...other people watching tv shows. Gogglebox FTW! Now I'm waiting for the Gogglebox movie version where I get to see somebody else's response to 50 Shades of Grey when it comes out on DVD. FWIW, Kim Kardashian has given the movie a big thumbs-up, so it's a sterling endorsement
    Reminds me of this passage from Infinite Jest:

    "The Joke" - B.S. Latrodectus Mactans Productions. Audience as reflected cast; 35 mm x 2 cameras; variable length; black and white; silent. Parody of Hollis Frampton’s ‘audience-specific events,’ two Ikegami EC-35 video cameras in the theater record the ‘film’s’ audience and project the resultant raster onto screen - the theater audience watching itself watch itself get the obvious ‘joke’ and become increasingly self-conscious and uncomfortable and hostile supposedly comprises the film’s involuted ‘anti-narrative’ flow. Incadenza’a first truly controversial project, Film & Kartridge Kultcher’s Sperber credited it with ‘unwittingly sounding the death-knell of post-poststructural film in terms of sheer annoyance.’ NON-RECORDED MAGNETIC VIDEO SCREENABLE IN THEATER VENUE ONLY, NOW UNRELEASED


    (I really have to re-read this book....)
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    @Sage del Viento

    Ah--sorry if my post sounded defensive. I wanted to provide a link because the concept is pretty hard to describe in full (which seems a bit different compared to other things I've seen so far). From the bits and pieces I'm getting so far, it seems that Gogglebox seems to go the extra mile by showing (to a greater degree) the lives of people who're watching shows on screen. There's supposedly stuff like miming and other interesting reactions going on, so it deals with interesting pomo themes like the relationship of art to 'reality', the viewer/audience, etc... that people often take for granted.

    @thismustbetheplace

    I've been meaning to read Infinite Jest! From the reviews I've seen so far, it seems like a good way for many people to get into postmodern concepts and themes. The excerpt seems pretty quirky and stylistically challenging, IMO--and it's pretty explicit in the way it brings up pomo concepts like poststructuralism. I know some readers who prefer 'traditional' fiction and don't 'get' postmodernism, though. I'm open to just about anything, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus83 View Post
    @Sage del Viento

    Ah--sorry if my post sounded defensive. I wanted to provide a link because the concept is pretty hard to describe in full (which seems a bit different compared to other things I've seen so far). From the bits and pieces I'm getting so far, it seems that Gogglebox seems to go the extra mile by showing (to a greater degree) the lives of people who're watching shows on screen. There's supposedly stuff like miming and other interesting reactions going on, so it deals with interesting pomo themes like the relationship of art to 'reality', the viewer/audience, etc... that people often take for granted...

    I see.

    It's really an odd concept, to me at least. However, the way you describe it, it sounds like it could give an interesting perspective, but it also seems almost like an odd form of narcissism in that your reactions and commentary are being filmed... but, that's not much different from the people who manage to make a living doing basically that with video games through websites such as Youtube and I admit there's a couple of people on that site I enjoy watching due to their personalities.


    Oh, and you didn't come off as defensive in your response.

    I simply said that just in case I came off as terse. You know, a preemptive apology!
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  7. #24087
    INFP - The Idealists

    I cooked a thing! It actually looked like the recipe pictures on the internet! Nothing caught fire! (there was some smoke and I filled the sink with pasta but w/e)
    It even tasted good!

    This is the dawn of a new era.
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  8. #24088
    INFP - The Idealists


    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus83 View Post
    I've been meaning to read Infinite Jest! From the reviews I've seen so far, it seems like a good way for many people to get into postmodern concepts and themes. The excerpt seems pretty quirky and stylistically challenging, IMO--and it's pretty explicit in the way it brings up pomo concepts like poststructuralism. I know some readers who prefer 'traditional' fiction and don't 'get' postmodernism, though. I'm open to just about anything, IMO.
    Oh dude you have to read Infinite Jest! I think you would LOVE IT. It's my favorite book of all time :) Honestly it's just fun to read...I read it when I was 15 so I think most of the sociological references and so on were lost on me, but I have to re-read it sometime.

    Also there's an audiobook version of it on Youtube...it's over 54 hours long. I'm guessing that doesn't include the endnotes....
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  9. #24089
    INFP - The Idealists


    Quote Originally Posted by ATLeow View Post
    I cooked a thing! It actually looked like the recipe pictures on the internet! Nothing caught fire! (there was some smoke and I filled the sink with pasta but w/e)
    It even tasted good!

    This is the dawn of a new era.
    *2001: A Space Odyssey intro song plays*

    What was the thing you cooked?
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  10. #24090
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by thismustbetheplace View Post
    *2001: A Space Odyssey intro song plays*

    What was the thing you cooked?
    This thing!

    Except I just bought sauce instead of made it and bought pre shredded chicken and used the wrong amount of all the ingredients and I added some spinach which smelled bad and was tasteless but counts as a vegetable. Also cheese added is directly proportional to how good it tastes.
    It's so simple this is probably going to be the only thing I make now for the next month, or until I use up the bag of spinach.
    :c


     

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