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This is a discussion on Thread of Random Thoughts and Ideas within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Do any other fellow INFPs get ticked off when encountering inauthentic people? I can't stand bullies, because in all actuality ...

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    Do any other fellow INFPs get ticked off when encountering inauthentic people? I can't stand bullies, because in all actuality they are cowards. I just wish people would be themselves instead of trying to put on some facade.

    Also, sometimes I feel really lonely because I don't feel understood or like I fit in ANYWHERE.

    Finally, I really enjoy hermit mode, even when I do feel lonely. LOL
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    I have it in me to become famous. It's not a question of the fame itself but more in the sense how do i determine in what i become famous. Do I need to become a director, a writer, a politician or a meteorologist/scientist. I can write non-fiction books and they will be the best sold books on the planet. I can win an olympic gold medal if i want to. I can become Time person of the year. I can win several nobelprizes (literature, science and peace), but i have the mind to do things we thought were not achievable for humans. The problem is i'm too all-round and scatterbrained to accomplish any of that, and right now i have the suckiest life you can imagine.

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    INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrah View Post
    It's really interesting that you picked up on that... especially it terms of the timing of your post. I was just reading the other day about the importance of words, and how they affect our view on things. One word in particular "work", has quite a lot of significance in our culture. It can refer to employment, or it can refer to operating as we should be (not broken). Let that sink in. What must that make a person feel when they are not employed? When they are not working? They will feel like broken people.

    Even if on the surface we aren't aware of this alternative meaning, our subconscious no doubt picks up on it and alters our view of the concept, and perhaps ourselves. And yes, I think fixed is another clever word choice to make people more easily accept the practice.
    Yeah, it's fascinating (and a little depressing) how influential word choice can be on our perception. To reference the dog shelter again, most cases where a dog "has" to be killed are known as "putting him/her to sleep." On the surface, of course we know what this means, but somewhere deeper the words may register as, "Put to sleep? That's what my mother used to do to me when I was a kid!" That and a lot of words with double meanings which connect in our subconscious (like "work," as you said), have an unfortunately unnoticed impact on our actions as a culture.
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    In continuing with the "hug the entire everything" theme, and assuming they exist (which I suspect is true but of course under a different moniker), I want to hug a tsundere. Where to find one, though? *ponders*

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    INFJ

    @knots
    I wouldn't say people necessarily kill dogs as this sounds like murder. I object to this and people working at the shelter I know do this out of compassion for animals; of course they hope people would come and take the animal but in certain cases "putting them to sleep" how you resentfully remarked on is the best solution or even the only one. It is very depressing to think about the destinies of these animals and what they went through but at places like animal shelters sad fates collect together.

    I agree with you! I don't object to that word usage influences how we think about things but it would break my heart if I had to "kill" the dog, even when it was still the same action when calling it differently. Words are an instrument to grapple with things too, not only one to influence and even manipulate people though. Thoughts like "he watches over you" instead of "is rotting in the earth/was burnt to ashes" are more comforting and although I'm getting into religion now, if you ever lost a dear held person no matter your attitude towards believing you know how it feels and what I needed to hear although my irresolute mindset towards the church.
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    INFP

    Quote Originally Posted by Baf View Post
    @knots
    I wouldn't say people necessarily kill dogs as this sounds like murder. I object to this and people working at the shelter I know do this out of compassion for animals; of course they hope people would come and take the animal but in certain cases "putting them to sleep" how you resentfully remarked on is the best solution or even the only one. It is very depressing to think about the destinies of these animals and what they went through but at places like animal shelters sad fates collect together.

    I agree with you! I don't object to that word usage influences how we think about things but it would break my heart if I had to "kill" the dog, even when it was still the same action when calling it differently. Words are an instrument to grapple with things too, not only one to influence and even manipulate people though. Thoughts like "he watches over you" instead of "is rotting in the earth/was burnt to ashes" are more comforting and although I'm getting into religion now, if you ever lost a dear held person no matter your attitude towards believing you know how it feels and what I needed to hear although my irresolute mindset towards the church.
    Oh yeah, there's plenty of situations where a dog (or any animal) is too sick/injured to live a fulfilling life, and in that case euthanasia is often best (I wouldn't want to live if I had several terminal diseases either). I probably could've mentioned when I said "kill" I had cases in mind where a dog is provoked by somebody who tugs on their tail, gets in their face and irritates them, etc, and the dog bites that somebody, resulting in the dog being killed.

    The only concern I ever had is that more comfortable language can lessen the perceived severity of an unnecessary killing - if a dog is "put to sleep" for the above reason it might not be as bad as being "killed." However, it's a huge gray area to me. The balance between word usage for comfort and word usage for blatant truth to get people acting is extremely hard to find, and the reason I don't think any manipulation through words is done intentionally, as people are simply finding that line where the depressing nature of animal shelters isn't getting to them too deeply.

    And yeah, I'd probably rather rub a cheese grader over my body than "kill" a dog, regardless of word choice. I couldn't see myself hearing a veterinarian say, "I put this animal to sleep," and saying, "No you actually killed him!!" After all, balance is necessary, and I hope to never be in their shoes. :)
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    Unknown Personality

    'Because it works' is NOT a reason *why* we 'should' do something. All 'because it works' really means is 'Does what I want it to do the way I expect to see it.' And no--not everybody is on the same page when it comes to expectations. There can also be a mismatch between one's expressed expectations and how those expectations are interpreted as well as applied. So suck on that, you doofuses who claim that creative writing rules are 'there' because they 'work'.
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    The more I read threads on intertype relations of all kind, the more I get a feeling that INFP are simply... Not allowed to be themselves, ever. No type will take us for what we are.
    Too "shy and reserved" for extroverts, too "fragile and weak" for thinkers, too "weird" for sensors, too "messy" for judging types. So unless we go through a complete upheaval of function stack, nobody is simply willing to even as much as give a chance.
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    Do teachers teach or do we teach ourselves
    #OMG #SoDeep #BallsDeep
    Paper for Jinan
    The master interrupts the silence with anything, a sarcastic remark, a kick. This is how, according to the technique of Zen, a Buddhist master proceeds in the search for meaning. It is the part of the students themselves to seek the answer to their own questions. The master does not teach ex cathedra a ready made science. She delivers the answer by bringing the students to the point where they can find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wellsy View Post
    Do teachers teach or do we teach ourselves
    #OMG #SoDeep #BallsDeep
    Paper for Jinan
    That reminds me of how I tutored in high school. What we did was ask the students questions and they would have to answer it. For example, "Do you think this essay matches the prompt" etc. We just guide them and they ended up teaching themselves in a way.
    Last edited by LittleDreamer; 06-05-2017 at 08:07 AM. Reason: Typo!
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