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This is a discussion on Unemployed, depressed INFP seeks advice from fellow INFPS (or any Introverts) within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; Originally Posted by OrangeAppled Do you have a bachelors? Are you in the US? I am a graphic designer with ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    Do you have a bachelors? Are you in the US?
    I am a graphic designer with a BA and I work as a sub teacher when design work is slow. All you need to qualify is a BA and to pass an incredibly easy test called the cbest. It pays decently considering you are basically a glorified babysitter :D.

    Haha, that would be great. :) I do have a bachelors and am in the US. I've looked into teaching in my state, and I did see that it looks like I could be eligible to teach at a lot of schools if I took the test for the state I'm in. It implied that I would have to do some courses as well but I'm going to give it another look and see what I can find.
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  2. #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Tina Belcher View Post
    I'm in the same line of work and I have a history of depression/anxiety. I hated working for a company because you have no free reigns and you're on the clock to finish- very draining. I became extremely agitated having to be in that type of setting with such demands so, I left:

    I free lance and work from home now and it's been the best decision of my life. What you really need to do is stick to building up your track record/portfolio. It's a competitive field and you're basically a dime a dozen so, really grinding each day to get potentials and actual clients is a must; you can't afford to be lazy or put it off for a second.

    Once you get to that point where you give yourself a name- getting work won't be a problem at all. I easily make a good living doing this and it's absolutely the best.

    It's definitely not going to be easy. You need your own style and have a bit of something that no one else has to stand out. And again- you really need to hustle to get yourself known too but, trust me- it'll all be worth it. (I would literally soak in the bath for 3 hours at the end of the day to get rid of the anxiety I had to deal with by putting myself out there... keep in mind- I'm a very recluse type so, each day was total hell...but, I made it out in the end!).

    But yeah, you'll figure it out and it'll be okay. Just be consistent and take it little by little; you digest better in small bites rather than taking big chunks.
    That's awesome, you're living the dream!! I found most of my clients through Thumbtack, but only a couple of them were for lack of better word, quality clients. Some of them wanted me to do work for free or were unsure when they could pay me. I was uncomfortable with taking on those kind of clients. Also, Thumbtack charges you for credits to be able to send quotes to potential clients, and it just became not worth it anymore. And like I said to @Engelsstaub , sites like Upwork, Elance, Freelancer didn't work out for me. How were you able to find clients? What do you recommend doing for getting yourself out there? I'm super introverted too, but I'm willing to do what it takes. I would rather be a freelancer more than anything, but my first go around really didn't work very well for me, which is why I've been job hunting for months now. Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it and that's so great that you're able to do work as a freelancer for a living now!

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    I'm not a freelancer, I have a full time job, but I know a few of such people.

    Another piece of advice is that you shouldn't wait until a company posts a job offer online. Job websites are full of people looking for anything to make money and for every offer there will be dozens of applications. You know a company around that has some use for people with your skills? Send them your application and don't care if they're looking for one right now. Even if they don't respond now they might do that in a bit when they start searching.
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  4. #14

    Quote Originally Posted by jemicu View Post
    Hello, and thank you for taking the time to read this post. I've been reading threads on personality cafe for awhile now, and decided to join so I could connect with you all. I really don't know other INFP's, but my husband is INFJ/INTJ (he likes to say that he is INFJ with me and INTJ with everyone else lol). The reason for starting this thread, is I am an unemployed, depressed INFP. From what I've read, my situation doesn't seem to be that unique among INFP's. I graduated from college in 2014, and since then have been jumping from job to job, each one making me more miserable than the last. I studied Studio Art/Graphic Design in college, but have been unable to find a job in graphic design past an internship. I tried freelance for awhile, but it really didn't go so well and I need a consistent paycheck. My husband is getting out of the military in a year, which we are both happy about, but I really need a job as we have a lot of debt and we don't know what's going to happen with him finding work.

    Besides the internship, the other jobs I've taken include customer service working in food service, receptionist, and as a rep for direct tv. These jobs have all been totally wrong for me, but of all of the hundreds of applications I've put in I really haven't gotten any better options. I did get a couple graphic design opportunities while trying to make it as a freelancer, and I regret not taking those now, as I might would have a good job now. I interviewed for a few really good jobs, but they always said they were choosing someone with more experience. I worked so hard in college and also worked two part time jobs as an art editor and graphic artist while going through college. I'm so sad that I can't find anything.

    I don't know what to do, I've still been applying for graphic design jobs, because I'm not qualified to do much else. The opportunities are scarce and I'm worried that I won't be able to get a job in my field because it's been so long since I graduated. I'm wondering if I should try to go back to school, but that would just add on more debt. And I don't want to go back to a customer service job. I quit all those jobs because they made me so unhappy, I used to nearly cry every day. I just wanted to die, I know that's dramatic but I was that upset, all the time. In most cases my husband had to talk me into quitting still, because I really do hate quitting anything. I'm still depressed now because I feel like there's just not a place for me, at least not in this city. I feel like no one wants what I have to offer. What should I do?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated whether it's for career, or just being able to cope in the real world as an INFP!
    If you got college try joining the military. You might be able go in as an officer
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by jemicu View Post
    Hello, and thank you for taking the time to read this post. I've been reading threads on personality cafe for awhile now, and decided to join so I could connect with you all. I really don't know other INFP's, but my husband is INFJ/INTJ (he likes to say that he is INFJ with me and INTJ with everyone else lol). The reason for starting this thread, is I am an unemployed, depressed INFP. From what I've read, my situation doesn't seem to be that unique among INFP's. I graduated from college in 2014, and since then have been jumping from job to job, each one making me more miserable than the last. I studied Studio Art/Graphic Design in college, but have been unable to find a job in graphic design past an internship. I tried freelance for awhile, but it really didn't go so well and I need a consistent paycheck. My husband is getting out of the military in a year, which we are both happy about, but I really need a job as we have a lot of debt and we don't know what's going to happen with him finding work.

    Besides the internship, the other jobs I've taken include customer service working in food service, receptionist, and as a rep for direct tv. These jobs have all been totally wrong for me, but of all of the hundreds of applications I've put in I really haven't gotten any better options. I did get a couple graphic design opportunities while trying to make it as a freelancer, and I regret not taking those now, as I might would have a good job now. I interviewed for a few really good jobs, but they always said they were choosing someone with more experience. I worked so hard in college and also worked two part time jobs as an art editor and graphic artist while going through college. I'm so sad that I can't find anything.

    I don't know what to do, I've still been applying for graphic design jobs, because I'm not qualified to do much else. The opportunities are scarce and I'm worried that I won't be able to get a job in my field because it's been so long since I graduated. I'm wondering if I should try to go back to school, but that would just add on more debt. And I don't want to go back to a customer service job. I quit all those jobs because they made me so unhappy, I used to nearly cry every day. I just wanted to die, I know that's dramatic but I was that upset, all the time. In most cases my husband had to talk me into quitting still, because I really do hate quitting anything. I'm still depressed now because I feel like there's just not a place for me, at least not in this city. I feel like no one wants what I have to offer. What should I do?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated whether it's for career, or just being able to cope in the real world as an INFP!
    See if you can find contractor / part time gigs.
    Also some graphic design (depending on what you're talking about) might be something you can do remotely -- web-based probably, physical storyboards no.

    Here are a few ideas:

    Does your college/university have an alumni center or job placement service? Or were there any internship opportunities listed on the departmental bulletin boards?

    Check with local churches or civic organizations, maybe even non-profits. See if you can do informational interviews, or offer to intern.
    This will give you experience and contacts, and will help by showing something relevant on your resume.

    See if you can find receptionist/admin where you have to help update customer lists online or something a wee-bit-closer to graphic design than a sales rep. (Shudders.) I don't think most INFPs were cut out to be sale people.

    Best wishes!

    One other idea, off the wall, and ABSOLUTELY not meaning to pry.
    Is there any possibility your husband could re-enlist, and get a signing bonus? I have heard that some parts of the Armed Forces are really trying to reduce turnover. (OTOH, some branches are trying to cut out all mid-level personnel so there are large reductions-in-force...I don't know which situation you're in.)
    Or, is there the possibility of your husband being reassigned to a new duty area where the job prospects are better for you?

    (shrugs).

    Best wishes!
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  6. #16

    @jemicu Sorry to hear you're going through this. I'm in a similar position myself. And I'm someone who worked at both a bookstore and a grocery store as well as direct sales in the past. I got suspended about a month ago and shits all tied up with the union, so I'm kind of in limbo right now with work. Alot of other shit hit me at the same time too though, like a 3 day span and everything just went to complete shit. At the same time, it's a nice break because my job at the grocery store was very draining on me. I think I've been depressed for a while now because of it.

    Here's what I'd recommend: Give yourself a set time limit, a few days, maybe a week if you really need it and can afford it. And don't even think about work or jobs, just take care of yourself. It's alright to be pissed off, to cry, to do nothing, to be miserable and angry and sad. Eat whatever you want, sleep in, indulge in whatever. But after that set date, start focusing on finding work. Basically it just gets everything out of your system at once, or that's the idea of it anyways.

    Have you looked into online work? Freelancing? Survey taking? Aside from that I'd say maybe try getting into sales. It's a tough business, but it will push you, and that's always good. Plus, if you're good at it, future employers will recognize your success since it's so hard to succeed in sales. The other option is look into selling stuff on ebay or craiglist. Or maybe take the free time to learn a teachable skill like coding or photoshop. You'd have more opportunities with freelance stuff with that. Also, if you ever wanted to try working from home and start your own blog, you could use your knowledge of coding to help you with that as well.

    And keep studying graphic design. Keep improving yourself. You have the edge now that you have more time on your hands. Use it to become more of a competitive threat to the others in your field.

    Stay strong, and goodluck.
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  7. #17
    ENFP

    Quote Originally Posted by jemicu View Post
    Hello, and thank you for taking the time to read this post. I've been reading threads on personality cafe for awhile now, and decided to join so I could connect with you all. I really don't know other INFP's, but my husband is INFJ/INTJ (he likes to say that he is INFJ with me and INTJ with everyone else lol). The reason for starting this thread, is I am an unemployed, depressed INFP. From what I've read, my situation doesn't seem to be that unique among INFP's. I graduated from college in 2014, and since then have been jumping from job to job, each one making me more miserable than the last. I studied Studio Art/Graphic Design in college, but have been unable to find a job in graphic design past an internship. I tried freelance for awhile, but it really didn't go so well and I need a consistent paycheck. My husband is getting out of the military in a year, which we are both happy about, but I really need a job as we have a lot of debt and we don't know what's going to happen with him finding work.
    I'm in the graphic field, so I may be able to offer you some advice. There are endless possibilities for careers if you just think outside the box. For instance yesterday I had this idea of teaming up with one of my mates that knows Chinese. Given that Chinese prices are approx 1/10 of the prices in my home country you can offer business cards, pens, t shirts and various profiling materials etc. with 1000% provision.

    Create artwork and sell prints on various websites.

    Create content to stock-sites and create icons, photos etc.

    Learn to create web-sites and take a monthly service-fee for a stable and reliable income. If you're alone you can offer competitive prices and target small businesses (more service-work).

    Hold software courses, social media courses, etc.

    Learn google adwords and help small businesses set up their online advertisements.

    Target the private market. Wedding invitations, thank you cards, club posters etc.

    Look for teamwork and relationships within the creative field. Being a designer that can consult and refer customers to other professionals like photographers, web-designers, etc. is key. Take charge.

    Guide customers to what they need. Help them find out that they need the products you deliver. Most people don't know they even need a website until someone tells them. Same with business cards, folders, rollups, etc. Educate and guide your clients. You're a professional, and your advice is important knowledge.

    Learn to write so you can offer to write press releases, slogans, visions etc. Customer often don't think they need writing services, but they do. If you can combine writing skills with search engine theory it's even better.

    Get good prices and deals with printing companies etc. so you can charge your customers with provision.

    Learn to set up e-books, and even write an e-book.

    Early on take the role of art director where you can charge customers for administering projects even if you do no graphical work. Be the person they call when they need a company movie, even if you don't make movies.

    Move abroad. Living costs are cheaper in many countries, which means you can do half the work and live for less. If I moved to Poland and charged west-european prices to west-european clients, I'd have a 4 month wage for 20 hours of work.

    And remember the possibilities are endless.

    Quote Originally Posted by jemicu View Post
    Besides the internship, the other jobs I've taken include customer service working in food service, receptionist, and as a rep for direct tv. These jobs have all been totally wrong for me, but of all of the hundreds of applications I've put in I really haven't gotten any better options. I did get a couple graphic design opportunities while trying to make it as a freelancer, and I regret not taking those now, as I might would have a good job now. I interviewed for a few really good jobs, but they always said they were choosing someone with more experience. I worked so hard in college and also worked two part time jobs as an art editor and graphic artist while going through college. I'm so sad that I can't find anything.
    I've worked for a graphic design company for 5 years now. And I want to start on my own. Experience was important, but working 9-5 with graphic design is very stressful.

    Quote Originally Posted by jemicu View Post
    I don't know what to do, I've still been applying for graphic design jobs, because I'm not qualified to do much else. The opportunities are scarce and I'm worried that I won't be able to get a job in my field because it's been so long since I graduated. I'm wondering if I should try to go back to school, but that would just add on more debt. And I don't want to go back to a customer service job. I quit all those jobs because they made me so unhappy, I used to nearly cry every day. I just wanted to die, I know that's dramatic but I was that upset, all the time. In most cases my husband had to talk me into quitting still, because I really do hate quitting anything. I'm still depressed now because I feel like there's just not a place for me, at least not in this city. I feel like no one wants what I have to offer. What should I do?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated whether it's for career, or just being able to cope in the real world as an INFP!
    Believe me, as an NF I'd advice you to not just wait for an opportunity to arise. Creating them will give you confidence, not just drifting along helplessly hoping for some job to appear, because then you'll never be happy as the only way to create the work environment you want is to do it yourself.

    The reason why "no one wants what you have to offer" is because they don't know what you offer, or they don't know the importance of what you have to offer. Tell them.
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  8. #18

    Quote Originally Posted by INFP_BEE View Post
    I know how you feel to a degree. My story has similarities in feeling but many differences in circumstance. Regardless, I'll spare you my personal details. Point is, I can relate in a convoluted sort of way.

    Basically, I know how it feels to be in a position that isn't a good fit. I know how draining that can be. My story doesn't involve customer service type roles but I can only imagine how that must have seriously felt like a slow painful death. I don't think you are being over dramatic at all. It's a very real struggle!

    I also know how hard it is to feel as though you want to break through some sort of professional barrier that seems as though it is impenetrable. Don't give up! Keep on putting yourself out there! I wish I had more practical advice for you, but being that I'm in a completely different field and know nothing about yours, I feel as though my input wouldn't be very valuable. I do want to send you some hugs though and some sympathy. I know it's not easy.

    I'm personally starting to think about looking into ...*dreaded sigh* ...networking with others. ...lol. I hate networking to find jobs and I imagine most introverts do as well, but it seems to me that it can be a great way to get your resume looked at rather than buried under a pile of others.

    Actually... come to think of it. Here's some practical advice. One thing I've noticed (and this is just going by my own field, so it may not apply to you) is that just getting your foot in the door is more than half the battle. Anytime people ask for advice on how to a get into my field, I tell them to get any job ... ANY job... within an organization that would have their dream job. It could be something as simple as working the mail room. Key is to get your name on the payroll. Next step would be to look for internal job postings for something more relevant to your actual desired career. In my company, our positions are attempted to be hired from within first, THEN they are sent outside if no one inside the company is qualified. So, imagine a nice graphic artist job pops up as you are working the mail room. You put your resume in... and you are the ONLY resume... add in the fact that you will have been friendly with people in your role in the mail room and have possibly even had some friendly conversations with the hiring manager. In that situation, as long as you are reasonably qualified, you have a REALLY good chance of getting hired. I've seen it happen before. It's a great strategy for someone starting out. Again though, I'm not sure that strategy would play out as nicely in your field as it seems to in mine, but I just wanted to share in case it has some sort of value for you.

    Anyway... I must say that I am a bit jealous that you are in graphic arts. I personally think that would be an awesome field to be in! It sounds as though you enjoy the work as well. That certainly goes a long way! I wish I could say the same about my career. It also sounds like you have acquired some good experience. Plus, you have your degree in the field. These are all positive things to try to keep in the forefront. I'm not trying to diminish your struggle, just trying to help you see the bright side perhaps? I really hope you get that big break that you deserve! Hang in there!
    Thank you! I really appreciate the advice and sympathy a lot. I'll keep that in mind about getting your foot in the door. If I need to I should be able to get a job as a receptionist, I've worked for several companies as one. Doing that kind of job gave me a lot anxiety, but it was a lot more bearable than other customer service jobs. But I'm going to get in touch with graphic design companies again and let them know I'm looking for work, maybe one of them will need someone in admin or something like that if not a designer. Thank you for the encouragement, it really lifted my spirits.
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  9. #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Engelsstaub View Post
    I'm not a freelancer, I have a full time job, but I know a few of such people.

    Another piece of advice is that you shouldn't wait until a company posts a job offer online. Job websites are full of people looking for anything to make money and for every offer there will be dozens of applications. You know a company around that has some use for people with your skills? Send them your application and don't care if they're looking for one right now. Even if they don't respond now they might do that in a bit when they start searching.
    That's a good point, about a year ago I emailed local graphic design companies and I got a couple initial responses. I'm going to do that again but look for different kinds of companies I could get in touch with too.

  10. #20

    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPerfect View Post
    If you got college try joining the military. You might be able go in as an officer

    Haha, it's crossed my mind a few times. I've said before that if I don't get a good paying job by the time my husband gets out of the military, then I'm going to join. But hopefully it won't take me that long.


     
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