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This is a discussion on <_> need help making sense of my type. (am I a T?) within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; @ Rim , there is nothing that proves or disproves INFP in your original post. The types show which cognitive ...

  1. #11
    ISFP - The Artists


    @Rim , there is nothing that proves or disproves INFP in your original post. The types show which cognitive functions you prefer, nothing more, nothing less. How you use those functions is up to you and it's yet another reason why everyone is unique.

    If I were you, I would fill out a form in the What's my personality type? section and read up on the cognitive functions.

    I hope you clear your confusion soon.
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  2. #12
    Unknown Personality


    feeling does not mean you have to be sloppily empathetic. quite frankly I hate being that way, and I am definitely Fi. its about how you process stuff man. sounds to me like stereotypes are clouding your judgment.
    MBTI Eight Functions
    type yourself. the tests are useless. :)

    edit: the link I posted is just a jumping off point. but if you just search ne vs ni for example, you can find lots of articles discussing it. good luck.

  3. #13
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Rim View Post
    I also am having doubts about being a feeler. For one I'm lost in my head too much, I think a lot and I have strange reactions to situations where I think I should be more sympathetic.
    Why do you think you need to be more sympathetic?

    From my understanding, feeling isn't really about sympathy or empathy, even though that is how it tends to be expressed. I've also started to develop a distaste for defining feeling in terms of values, because I don't think it doesn't properly convey the rationality of the function. Values, harmony, and even emotions can be a parts of the function, however, they describe the inputs to a process not the actual process itself.

    To take from the description of Fi here, it mentions a "weighing" that takes place, a process. The way I've come to understand it is that it describes a method for assigning orderings between different concepts kind of like:
    People > Stuff
    Money > Stuff
    People > Money
    Then the natural ordering of the three concepts would be People > Money > Stuff. It's completely unambiguous, however, when you start using other ways to define the relationships and applying the general concepts into specific circumstances then it starts to appear ambiguous (but a natural order still remains).

    Nota Bene: The above interpretation is my understanding what feeling as a process looks like, I've left many of the interior details I used to derive the above process out. So, I put no confidence in the accuracy, reality, or feasibility of my interpretation outside of my own head. It's also in part based on experience of Prolog which is a logic based programming language in which you define truths; and after you define the core set of truths you are then able to query the implicit truths of the core truths.

    Tangential, but I noticed you use a lot of smilies, have you ever thought about why you use them?
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  4. #14

    Quote Originally Posted by redballoon View Post
    feeling does not mean you have to be sloppily empathetic. quite frankly I hate being that way, and I am definitely Fi. its about how you process stuff man. sounds to me like stereotypes are clouding your judgment.
    MBTI Eight Functions
    type yourself. the tests are useless. :)
    I can't make sense of the functions. The way I see it I use most of them well enough, too situational, I react and adapt so i may act one way in one situation and in other ways in other situations. I love taking electronics apart and seeing what makes it work, does that imply I use a lot of Ti? I don't know, could never tell through functions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
    @Rim , there is nothing that proves or disproves INFP in your original post. The types show which cognitive functions you prefer, nothing more, nothing less. How you use those functions is up to you and it's yet another reason why everyone is unique.

    If I were you, I would fill out a form in the What's my personality type? section and read up on the cognitive functions.

    I hope you clear your confusion soon.
    Same goes for the questionnaire. I did fill it out and opinions were divided (including my own). ._. I kinda suck at introspecting, or to be precise :P I don't trust my own judgment on the matter enough (I doubt), because I have no way of proving how correct it is. I do need discussions like this with other people.

    A good example would be how I found my Enneagram. Originally I thought I was a 4 and people kept telling me I was a 6, but I didn't believe it ^^ thou I doubted being a 4 as well. I just couldn't see it, but they were right and it was obvious why.

    ^^; I just suck at introspection.
    This is my workaround. Somebody is bound to pick up on something that leads to the type.

    Quote Originally Posted by gestalt View Post
    ixfj perhaps
    That is actually a good possibility. I relate a lot to both INFJ and ISFJ descriptions (minus all the being organized/helpful and tidy parts).
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  5. #15
    ISFP - The Artists


    @Rim , I'm not sure if it helps but nearly everything (from the fact that you're seeking input from us to you loving taking apart electronics) indicates Ne to me. It would also explain why you doubt almost anything.

    And in true Ne "fashion", I'm going to say that this is just my impression and I could be wrong. ;) But I believe you've got Ne as dominant or auxiliary (which means XNXP).
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  6. #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Overflow View Post
    @Rim , I'm not sure if it helps but nearly everything (from the fact that you're seeking input from us to you loving taking apart electronics) indicates Ne to me. It would also explain why you doubt almost anything.

    And in true Ne "fashion", I'm going to say that this is just my impression and I could be wrong. ;) But I believe you've got Ne as dominant or auxiliary (which means XNXP).
    o.o now we are getting somewhere! I think that may be correct. Sure would explain a lot of things. Thx!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivid Sunset View Post
    Why do you think you need to be more sympathetic?

    From my understanding, feeling isn't really about sympathy or empathy, even though that is how it tends to be expressed. I've also started to develop a distaste for defining feeling in terms of values, because I don't think it doesn't properly convey the rationality of the function. Values, harmony, and even emotions can be a parts of the function, however, they describe the inputs to a process not the actual process itself.

    To take from the description of Fi here, it mentions a "weighing" that takes place, a process. The way I've come to understand it is that it describes a method for assigning orderings between different concepts kind of like:
    People > Stuff
    Money > Stuff
    People > Money
    Then the natural ordering of the three concepts would be People > Money > Stuff. It's completely unambiguous, however, when you start using other ways to define the relationships and applying the general concepts into specific circumstances then it starts to appear ambiguous (but a natural order still remains).

    Nota Bene: The above interpretation is my understanding what feeling as a process looks like, I've left many of the interior details I used to derive the above process out. So, I put no confidence in the accuracy, reality, or feasibility of my interpretation outside of my own head. It's also in part based on experience of Prolog which is a logic based programming language in which you define truths; and after you define the core set of truths you are then able to query the implicit truths of the core truths.

    Tangential, but I noticed you use a lot of smilies, have you ever thought about why you use them?
    Yes that is my interpretation of F as well. Also I think I need to be more sympathetic because of the guilt I feel?

    Regarding smileys:

    My guess would be because I found them to my liking and I copied them from one of my x-girlfriends who loved using them a lot. It also serves as a "more accurate way of conveying information". They get the feeling across (nonverbal communication translated to to forum symbols?). I would like to hear your opinion on this thou o.o *curious*
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  7. #17
    Unknown Personality

    I will help you out via PM, but I just want to make some things clear here:

    a) T is not thinking and F is not feeling, in the casual definition sense. T is detached logic, F is values.
    b) How sympathetic or kind one is has little to do with F vs T. One can feel sympathy and still analyze from a detached standpoint. Similarly, one can not feel sympathy but think they ought to be.
    c) Fi-Te and Ti-Fe work together. Being too heavily tipped in one direction is unhealthy. Having a balance between your two functions is optimal. The question is, what is your automatic dominant function? Is it a perceiving function perhaps?

    There's more, I can address later ^_^
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  8. #18
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rim View Post
    Originally I typed as INFP (was depressed).

    O.o now I type as ESFP, ISFP, INTJ, ENFJ, INFJ, INFP and INTP....what the hell is going on?

    I also am having doubts about being a feeler. For one I'm lost in my head too much, I think a lot and I have strange reactions to situations where I think I should be more sympathetic.

    Example1:
    Was talking with this old lady (visiting every week), she was confined to her bed mostly, depressed and crying about different things every time I visited. Now others would maybe feel sorry for her and possibly cry or show some sympathy, but the only thing going on in my head was: "She is old, her times has come, family doesn't seem to give a damn about her (WTF!?)...I don't feel much for her either and here I am trying to fake some sympathy. Am pissed at her family thou." (also some thoughts about this happening to me when I get old)

    Example2: Old acquaintance just divorced from her husband and lost custody of her child, so I decided to visit her, ya know to check up on her and stuff. When there...again I feel no sympathy, nothing, she tells me her troubles and I fail at expressing "emotions"...mostly because I had nothing to express. Could have given advice on how to get out of that mess, but decided to shut up when she told me something that made me realize she got into even more crap. Decided to leave her with her "views" of things -.- prior experience with this sort of thing was telling me I'd only waste my time anyway. I haven't visited since she tried to make me her crutch and prefer not to (too lazy).

    Bottom line is, I understand what is going on from other people's perspective <.< but I don't really feel sympathy. I do feel guilt and it makes me want to do something occasionally, but really I just prefer to stay out of these things, well unless I know how to fix the situation.

    You guys remember the Japanese reactor thing when the tsunami hit? :\ felt nothing out of the ordinary there either....too far removed, didn't stir anything in me honestly :(.....now I feel guilty cus I don't feel for these people.
    Telling INFP and INTP apart can be surprisingly hard. I think the easiest way is to look at the inferior function. We you get pissed off, do you have an emotional explosion, or do you start laying down the law? The first one would be Fe, which would point towards you being an INTP, the second would be Te, which would point you to being an INFP.

    The first example looks like some suppressed Te coming out. The tsunami thing looks like recursive worrying, which is a very INFP thing to do :D Fi isn't as much a person thing as you might think, so the Example 2 seems consistent. I don't see anything here that suggests you aren't an INFP.
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  9. #19

    Quote Originally Posted by Spades View Post
    I will help you out via PM, but I just want to make some things clear here:

    a) T is not thinking and F is not feeling, in the casual definition sense. T is detached logic, F is values.
    b) How sympathetic or kind one is has little to do with F vs T. One can feel sympathy and still analyze from a detached standpoint. Similarly, one can not feel sympathy but think they ought to be.
    c) Fi-Te and Ti-Fe work together. Being too heavily tipped in one direction is unhealthy. Having a balance between your two functions is optimal. The question is, what is your automatic dominant function? Is it a perceiving function perhaps?

    There's more, I can address later ^_^
    :D thx spades!

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyeddie View Post
    Telling INFP and INTP apart can be surprisingly hard. I think the easiest way is to look at the inferior function. We you get pissed off, do you have an emotional explosion, or do you start laying down the law? The first one would be Fe, which would point towards you being an INTP, the second would be Te, which would point you to being an INFP.

    The first example looks like some suppressed Te coming out. The tsunami thing looks like recursive worrying, which is a very INFP thing to do :D Fi isn't as much a person thing as you might think, so the Example 2 seems consistent. I don't see anything here that suggests you aren't an INFP.
    Yeah...I "lay down the law" usually ^^;.....emotional breakdowns :\ never had one before.
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  10. #20
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rim View Post
    Yeah...I "lay down the law" usually ^^;.....emotional breakdowns :\ never had one before.
    Then I would guess you're an INFP. It's especially hard to type male INFPs, since society forces you to exercise your Te. Which is not an entirely good thing, if your Te overrides your Fi :/ There's some thought that Adolph Hitler was an really unhealthy INFP, including an overactive Te. But you sound fairly healthy, though.
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