[INFP] "ESTJ Business Suit?"

"ESTJ Business Suit?"

View Poll Results: Do you masquerade in another personality's "business suit?"

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  • Yes, and I hate it.

    8 22.86%
  • Yes, and I love it. It presents a challenge.

    8 22.86%
  • No. My job doesn't require it, though it might help if I could.

    5 14.29%
  • No. My job is dreaming I'm Alice in Wonderland.

    8 22.86%
  • Business suit? You mean my PJ's?

    6 17.14%
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This is a discussion on "ESTJ Business Suit?" within the INFP Forum - The Idealists forums, part of the NF's Temperament Forum- The Dreamers category; So I found something interesting reading Typelogic's INFP profile , in the phrase "INFPs can even masquerade in their ESTJ ...

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    INFP - The Idealists

    "ESTJ Business Suit?"

    So I found something interesting reading Typelogic's INFP profile, in the phrase "INFPs can even masquerade in their ESTJ business suit ..."

    Which got me to thinking about my job - that of a reporter.

    When one thinks about it, that could be a VERY ESTJ job. It requires good time management (J), objective analysis (T), observation of physical surroundings (S) and people skills (E).

    But I've also heard "journalist" mentioned on a lot of sites giving potential job interests for INFP's.

    Is it merely the creative process, the sense of "doing the world a favor" that would draw an idealistic INFP to this kind of job?

    The profile goes on to say the INFP may roll like an ESTJ on-the-job ... "but not without expending considerable energy."

    That's true to the max.

    I often find I have expended a ton of energy in just the most mundane of my reporter duties.

    But it's the idealist in me that keeps me coming back, I think. There's some sense of accomplishment in doing a job that I know is difficult, but in the end I still "feel good" about the product that I've put out.

    Do any of the rest of you find this, with your jobs, social lives, etc?

    The necessity of assuming, not only a different persona, but taking on the traits of your polar opposite?
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    INFP - The Idealists

    i do this sometimes, right now i am in a representative position for a group of people (someone decided to make me spokesperson because, and i quote, "it will break you out of your shell." except... i like my shell! it's useful sometimes) and it's fun to put on a new persona- or rather an extension of myself and how i would act if i was "normal" (something my mom has said which is absolute bullshit ). i don't completely stray from natural tendencies to listen more than talk but i do put on a confident mask and speak more surely as well as make comments that i probably wouldn't do naturally. i like acting, it's fun. it gets me out of my head for a while.

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    Unknown Personality


    I can relate, but i don't consider it a mask or persona of any sort. Rather in my head, I'm simply pushing my boundaries, improving myself, and becoming a more balanced, well rounded person!
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    I think journalism is a great example of this; I've often toyed with the idea of going into journalism, perhaps because as you said, to but quite broadly, in appealing to the INFP desire to "do the world a favour". But the job entails some amount of extroversion as well, particularly with broadcast journalism. I fear I wouldn't be able to pull that off, having to host interview after interview with strangers and such. I think it'd drain me way too much.

    I can't say that I've witnessed my own "ESTJ business suit"; I'm still a student. But it has surfaced during job interviews and the like.
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    Unknown Personality

    I work in a very ESTJ-dominated workplace right now. Is it hard? Hell yes! Does it drain me? Hell yeah! Do I keep coming back? Yes!

    Why? Because it challenges me. It revs me up and I want to prove to all of my asshole managers there that they don't bother me at all. >=(
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    INFP - The Idealists

    I have no idea what it means to use an "ESTJ" business suit... it sounds painful.
    icicle84, mushr00m, 20111017 and 2 others thanked this post.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunesimah View Post
    I have no idea what it means to use an "ESTJ" business suit... it sounds painful.
    LOL! It is painful sometimes!

    I thought it was an interesting concept when I read that, and I had never given it this much thought before.

    I had always thought my job kind of required me to be more of an extrovert, but I never really thought about it pretty much requiring me to become my very opposite for the "shoe-leather" part of the job, then become myself during the creative process.

    I've learned so much from this job, I think I'm pretty much prepared for anything!
    @ForsakenMe , good for you! I wouldn't use that word to describe any of my managers, but I think they're pretty impressed that the "quiet kid" ended up being one of their most solid reporters. :)
    @dann , I think that's exactly it. I feel like the college experience in itself helped stretch me a little, but nothing's done as much to help me become more "well-rounded" than this job has!
    @VertigoH , there's always print journalism (which I highly recommend)! ;) Interviews are normally one-on-one except at press conferences, and you don't have to worry about how you sound or look on tape, because you're not going to be in the presentation of it - plus I feel like the creative process (especially if you're working with words instead of video) allows you to put much more of yourself "into" it ... at least for those of us who are word-people.
    @dr dre , it is acting, to an extent. At least it started that way for me. But after years of "acting," I've started to wonder how much of it is an act anymore? My personality hasn't changed per se, and I have the same natural tendencies, and sometimes it still gets draining doing even just the "usual" stuff. But it's gotten a heck of a lot easier, and I now know the mental processes I need to go through to mask the natural tendencies that wouldn't do me any favors at the office or in the field.
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    ENFJ - The Givers

    I've tried but I just can't function like a judger. I can fumble a passable ESFP or ISFP on a good day.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by IAmOrangeToday View Post
    I've tried but I just can't function like a judger. I can fumble a passable ESFP or ISFP on a good day.
    The J is the absolute hardest thing for me. My time management skills stink, I'm rarely at something *exactly* on time. You should see my desk ... it ain't pretty ;) ... Ummmm ... some things I'm pretty competent with "judging" on, but I've resigned myself to that fact that the organizational skills will never EVER come naturally.

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    INFP - The Idealists

    My ESTJ side has popped up from time to time, usually when attempting to force some structure when I was a tutor. It wasn't pretty and it was unexpected for my students. I tap into my ST side at work, but I don't become the draining ESTJ.
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