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#1 ·
I'm so evil :proud:

Ok, so, I was thinking about something, I can't remember what it was -- ANYWAYS!

By some misguided train of thought, I thought of a question to ask our population of INTJ, and I think that maybe you guys would be surprised by the difference in individual answers.

I will not be commenting on any of your responses. I won't be arguing any "right" or "wrong" answer to this question, I'm just gonna watch how you guys come up with your answers and see how each of your answers influence the other's.

Ok... are you ready?

The question is:

Does the world fit in a box?

*** The meaning of this question is open-ended. I'm not asking any one specific meaning. I'm curious about how each of you will interpret the question, so just go with the first response that comes to mind when you hear the question. Whatever the first meaning you think that question is -- that's what I want you to answer.
 
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#2 ·
My first response would be that it would depend on what size of box, but that's not a very inteligent answer. If we see what quantum physics has to say about this...Well...You could say that in this universe the world fits in a box, but in the universe next door, it does not. Or, since we are each living in our own little multiverse, my world might not fit into a box, but the next persons might fit into one very nicely. Reality is realitive.
 
#3 ·
Damn. That's a hard question. Depends on your definition of "world", "box" and "fit". I mean, for some, fit can be very snugly. Fit can be about to explode. Fit can simply mean not spilling out. And box. Can that be metaphysical? And what kind of world? etc etc.
 
#4 ·
The world can be measured by arbitrary means, but must come to accordance for an integrable accumulation of persons; society. The world can be perceived in numerous perspectives, but an ultimate answer, must be solid, 'boxed' or 'stable'.

The agreement can be narrow-minded and rigid, but unexplored perceptions are behind open doors, and they are available to other minds. Alternative, but critical thinking can be performed.
 
#6 · (Edited)
That's a really good question to ask INTJ's.

Personally I don't think it does, but people have the ability to conceptualize 'it' through perception. I often "automatically" try to box things (temporarily!). The boxes are able to shift, expand or narrow down. There can be small boxes belonging in bigger boxes. It's probably one of those ways of how I make sense to the world(s) I see in my head. I suppose it is structuring. Remember though, the possibilities are broad or can be "renewed". But the elements to work with are out there to absorb. :D
 
#18 ·
That's a really good question to ask INTJ's.

Personally I don't think it does, but people have the ability to conceptualize 'it' through perception. I often "automatically" try to box things (temporarily!). The boxes are able to shift, expand or narrow down. There can be small boxes belonging in bigger boxes. It's probably one of those ways of how I make sense to the world(s) I see in my head. I suppose it is structuring. Remember though, the possibilities are broad or can be "renewed". But the elements to work with are out there to absorb. :D
Well put skyline. People like boxes (containers) for their ideas and perceptions. Boxes are place holders. But their relationship to reality is questionable.
 
#8 ·
Studying, are we, Tkae?

If it were a big enough box, yes. Resources would be spread thin from the attempt, and the idea of putting the world in a box would kill us all, but it's certainly a possibility.

'You're unique, just like everybody else'. Our individual attitudes form to a collective whole whether we want them to or not, so yes, the world is a 'box' when it comes to attitudes on a larger scale.

I second what InvisibleJim said, absolutely.
 
#9 ·
At first I took the question literally, but after reading the posts, I say yes. The world can be put into boxes, but it would be pointless because the world changes so quickly. A web would be a better organization system because of the relationships between things.
 
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#10 ·
I don't think the question should be "Does the world fit inside of a box?" as much as "Should the world fit inside of a box?" Yes, if you put your world inside of a box it will fit. The world will fill up the box. It doesn't matter how small or large the box is. If you put it in there it will fit. If the box is too small or is never exchanged for a larger box, the world cannot expand. Still though, the box is what shapes the direction the world will grow in. Without the box, you put growth into the hands of chaos. So, there is a time for removing the box and expanding your world, and a time for putting the most accurate box you can muster around the world and making a decision.

There was a quote by Eisenhower (INTJ) I was going to post here but I couldn't find It. I will paraphrase. "Weigh every option, consider every fear, then once you've come to a decision, is the time to forget all those fears and take action."
 
#15 ·
Tkae said:
*** The meaning of this question is open-ended. I'm not asking any one specific meaning. I'm curious about how each of you will interpret the question, so just go with the first response that comes to mind when you hear the question. Whatever the first meaning you think that question is -- that's what I want you to answer.
That's as close to defining it as I'm going to get :bored:
 
#12 ·
World - noun

  • the earth or globe, considered as a planet.
  • (often initial capital letter
    ) a particular division of the earth: the Western world.
  • the earth or a part of it, with its inhabitants, affairs, etc., during a particular period: the ancient world.
Box - noun


  • a container, case, or receptacle, usually rectangular, of wood, metal, cardboard, etc., and often with a lid or removable cover.
  • the quantity contained in a box: She bought a box of candy as a gift.
Resolved? :cool:
 
#26 ·
World - noun

  • the earth or globe, considered as a planet.
  • (often initial capital letter
    ) a particular division of the earth: the Western world.
  • the earth or a part of it, with its inhabitants, affairs, etc., during a particular period: the ancient world.
Box - noun


  • a container, case, or receptacle, usually rectangular, of wood, metal, cardboard, etc., and often with a lid or removable cover.
  • the quantity contained in a box: She bought a box of candy as a gift.
Resolved? :cool:
Yes, thank you.

The answer is "no".
 
#16 ·
I believe the world would fit into a box, if enough things are marganalized and suppressed enough. The world has become far to complex to be able to categorize and compartmentalize, in my opinion. This leads me to believe that there will be a big change coming in the near future. We will either be able to sustain independence and growth, or be forced to follow a stringent set of rules that not everybody will adhere to. In my opinion it will come down to politics, but only because there is $ involved. Either we are heading toward global socialism, or toward fanatic democracy. The way the majority of people think seems to demand one extreme or another. This is suicide for the human race, we need to be able to compromise and adapt or we are doomed.
 
#21 ·
Does the world fit in a box?
No, because there are so many things in this world that are not tangible, therefor you can not physically put them anywhere...including a box.

:tongue:
 
#22 ·
My truest response:

This question has little meaning to me. What are the benefits of pursuing it? What will we do with the answer to this question once it has been reached? One could get caught in an endless spiral of thinking if there is any material that could withstand such pressure, how it would be built etc. Or one could think of it in a philosophical manner, can we ever manage to completely shut ourselves out from everything etc. Ponder such a question? Shan't.
 
#23 ·
I will answer despite my over sized P-ness.:tongue:
I think of the "box" as the mind. Therefore, the world can only fit into "the box" if the mind-owner knows the world. To know the world, I think you need to know everything. And since it's nearly impossible to know every single little thing about the world, it is nearly impossible to fit the world into this box.

I feel really smart. :proud:
 
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#25 ·
So if you did know everything, the world would fit into a box from your point of view. What about just your world instead of all of existence?
 
#24 ·
I have been pondering this question all day, to be honesty :tongue:
 
#27 ·
I basically imagined the earth and this gigantic, cardboard box that the earth is supposed to go into. Then I asked myself "What does 'fitting into the box' even mean?" I mean, sure, the earth could easily fit into a big enough box but do we mean it has to fill all the available space, or it just has to touch the sides?
 
#28 ·
No, unless it's a really big box. But it all depends on how you define 'world'. If it's the Earth, then someone would be able to build a big enough box if they were so inclined. It beats me why anyone would do such a thing because people would freeze to death if the box blocked out radiation from the sun, but never mind. If 'the world' refers to the known universe it all depends on whether the known universe is finite or infinite. If it is indeed infinite then it would probably not fit inside anything that can easily be described as a 'box'. However if it is finite, we still know that it is damn big and any mission to explore just how big it is and how far you can travel before you hit the wall of the box would be a waste of resources. Also, this raises the question of what is outside the box.

edit: LOL, I didn't read the replies before posting mine, so that my answer wouldn't be influenced by other's opinion. LOL, glad to see I'm not the only one who (deliberately?) took the question literally :)
 
#30 ·
1st idea took me 30 seconds to come up with:
If we try to fit the world in a regular box it could be possible. It depends on how much you increase the density of planet earth and the size of the "box". That is if you want to use a regular box, like cargo containers.

2nd idea in 20 seconds, excluding 30 secs:
Then again we are in a box, If you think about space-time as a geometric shape.

3rd idea in 10 seconds, excluding 50 secs:
We could also make megastructures like this one (Dyson sphere - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). We could construct such a structure from little pieces around the planet.


Thats what I came up with.
 
#33 ·
Summary: There is not a strong enough box.
We don't need to pull or push the object in the box...
We just need it in the box.
 
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