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    Do you ever doubt that you are INTJ?

    Hello there I just joined here and it's my first thread.


    I've done the MBTI test like 100 times (okay, more like 15) so far, and I always get INTJ.
    Well, I've somewhat doubted my diagnosis (although I don't particularly have a better "candidate"), so I've tried the bloody test when I'm moody, especially optimistic, social, happy, sad, etc. etc.
    Especially the moody part. I tried to make more of the feeling choices just to see what happens but I still ended up with INTJ EVERY BLOODY TIME.

    Actually, I got ENTP like ONCE, and that was done when I was feeling especially anxious and moody.
    I did it expecting I'd get ENFP if I do get a different result that day, but VOILA! I got ENTP, the mirror of INTJ.

    Maybe it's because I'm a Gemini, I dunno.
    My personality is very Gemini-like, that's for sure...
    A Gemini INTJ...yeah, I feel that I'm both Gemini Persona and INTJ at the same time, which throws me off a lot.
    Maybe I'm just confused...the Gemini part makes me appear like an ENTP.

    I definitely AM a Ni dominant, and definitely am NOT a Fe, which leaves me no choice but to be an INTJ, really, but even after "finding out" that I'm an INTJ, I still wonder about a few things.

    I often doubt, "Am I really an INTJ?" Sometimes I feel as if I'm really just ENTP and in social situations, I seem like a mix between an ENFP and an ENTP. I know, weird, right?

    Well...let me get straight to the point already.
    I just can't work, focus, or study at home, no matter what it is.
    I study the best when I'm at a cafe.
    I dunno...I plug myself earbuds all the same, whether it be home or cafe, but it definitely makes a HUGE difference.
    Even the cafes, I seem to function better at hectic places with lots of people in it.

    The weird thing is, I really don't do group studies.
    EVERY group study either turns out to be a pure waste of time, or just turns out to be socializing, with no real studying done (at least for me).

    It's not like I particularly like or hate socializing, but my energy level just drops when I'm home, as if I'm some sort of a bear preparing for winter hibernations or someting.

    I get so lethargic I lose willpower to do most things at home, but the moment I get outside, like even for a short walk, I get all energized and hyped up, as if I'm charging up outdoors.

    Weird, right? Sounds like a REAL extrovert, right?
    I don't particularly hate socializing either, really.

    Assuming I am an extrovert, maybe I'm an ENTJ, you might think, but eh...
    I just CANNOT see myself as an ENTJ in any way, because my Fi is MUCH more developed than an inferior function Fi would be.
    I am very aware of my emotions, causes, meaning to me, etc.
    BESIDES, I'm just too hikikomori and disinterested to be an ENTJ lol

    Well, in short, I'm DEFINITELY not an ENTJ.
    If I indeed AM an idealist, then I'm definitely not ENFJ/INFJ, because my feeling function is either Fi or weaker Fe at best, leaving ENFP/INFP as candidates.
    I was once convinced that maybe I'm an ENFP, but I'm not anywhere near nice enough, optimistic or emotionally reactive enough to be any one of those.
    (EDIT: maybe that description was a bit stereotyping, but eh...I hope you get the point)
    I did a bit of research on both types, but I really can't see myself as one...

    I once considered the possibility of me being ISFP but my perception of the world is definitely that of a intuitive, as I almost always think about past, present, and future of the humankind and all such not-so-necessary abstract shit when I'm just thinking on how my life will unfold for the next month.
    I spend WAY more time in my head than the real world too...

    I can't see myself as an INTP, because although I like thinking for the sake of thinking, I often think for a practical purpose (although it may seem unpractical/dreamerlike for the sensors, the purpose, nevertheless, is a practical one, almost always) than just think for the fun of it.
    I have many INTP friends, so I'm all the more certain.

    That only leaves ENTP and INTJ.
    I'm really unsure now.
    Maybe I'm an ENTP, or maybe I'm an INTJ.
    Almost all MBTI test results say I'm an INTJ, and my thought process when I'm alone indeed seems like that of an INTJ, but the part where I get energized outdoors part, is what throws me off completely.

    I'd appreciate any thoughts and comments, thanks.
    Last edited by creovitamea; 03-05-2017 at 09:10 PM.



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    Every once in a while I think I might be ISTJ for a few minutes. Then I remember I'm not because I'm clearly an Ni-dom, and an NT. I'm pretty much the antithesis of an SJ.

    Also: please for the love of god drop the zodiac. It hurts my soul.

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    I don't anymore, but I did used to think I was ISTJ a while back, before a long of my real personality developed. There were quite a few things that convinced me I wasn't over time. Among them were the fact that I communicated FAR more easily with other intuitives who could grasp a lot of my thoughts without much further explanation or a need to see it in concrete terms, that Si-dom did not describe my thought process well (my past information comes from takeaways and lessons along with recognition of cause/effect or patterns, but very little of it is detail oriented. A telling sign was that Si users I know had habits clearly consistent with comparing past to present. They could recall the past with exquisite detail, something I can't do if I tried and they focus a lot of their life and discussion on said past experiences, which I don't care to do unless something from my past carries a strong impact of sorts.), and that I go on a Te-Fi judgment process.

    I'm inclined to say that actual INTJs who do doubt their type may be those that have not developed themselves as well or given it nearly as much thought and context.
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    Yeah sorry for that zodiac thing...I have a friend that's just obcessed with it that I sort of picked up things lol

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    I did go through some traumatic experience since childhood that I was only able to free myself very recently (6 months ago), which might explain why I'm like this I suppose...
    Like...Doctor House for example, he's an INTJ but is so unhealthy that he mostly seems like an ENTP.
    I was just wondering if there are any others that are like that or if it's just me...

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    Yes, I have doubted it.

    I don't think that preferring to be outdoors is necessarily a sign of extroversion.

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    INTJ

    Only every time I come into these forums and read what others say. Either I'm not an INTJ, or there's some other stuff that's messed up in me and I'm not functioning much like one. Either way, existence is painful at times.

    By the way, House is a fictional TV character and how he is and how he acts is a function of that week's episode and storyline. So I wouldn't use him as any kind of benchmark of what an INTJ is supposed to be like. He is and will be what the writers want him to be and I think their motivation is largely on what would tell a good story and get viewer numbers up rather than staying true to what an INTJ would actually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creovitamea View Post
    Hello there I just joined here and it's my first thread.


    I've done the MBTI test like 100 times (okay, more like 15) so far, and I always get INTJ.
    Well, I've somewhat doubted my diagnosis (although I don't particularly have a better "candidate"), so I've tried the bloody test when I'm moody, especially optimistic, social, happy, sad, etc. etc.
    Especially the moody part. I tried to make more of the feeling choices just to see what happens but I still ended up with INTJ EVERY BLOODY TIME.
    An associate of mine here typed me as actually ISTP™ (but considering a vast amount of INTJ™) can relate to 90% of my experiences; I doubt my [actual "true" type] has any significant relevance. Granted, the vast amount of "non-INTJ" all relating to "INTJ" experiences; seems to demonstrate the redundancy of figuring out ones ("true type"), that does not seem to expand beyond opportunistic anecdotes.

    That said, I cannot consistently relate to the various INTJ™ experiences made such as the heavy emphasis and appeal to stereotypes, which seems like overkill. (e.g., "I hate people", I am "blunt without tact", utilizing logic as a defining means of 'general' character) and poor social-etiquette, as such, which denotes impoliteness and [social anxieties/ineptitude] rather than any relation to typology or being an "INTJ" itself. It only raises the question; what does it mean to be an "INTJ" .. (?) It seems the only halfway objective finger we can point is at the function dichotomies as a determinative.

    Ex; (1) ->

    If you are an "INTJ" that enjoys social-situations (&) parties; so long as the "dichotomies" align; your hobbies, preferences, et al, are highly irrelevant.

    On that cue, in any case, I can relate to the INTJ-typology descriptions (how ever contingently exhibited) and cognitive-function usage (Ni, Te, Fi, Se), (Ni, Ti, Fe, Se), etc., etc., and other various proposal "stacks" for the INTJ.

    And so, while I am likely "INTJ" on these grounds, it does not explain nor account for the fact I enjoy, and find the INTP forums (&) their topics more "stimulating" for my (Ni), than the INTJ forums; which seem to just mimic (&) routinely splurt out the same "type" stereotypes and rhetoric, with unison agreement, personal conflicts or revolve around ("figuring INTJ's out") with little variety; or distinctions in the responses. I see implicit boredom and a sufficient lack of minimal analytical topics and interesting, creative questions, [and sometimes games], proposed for the INTJ-types, which seems more persistent in the INTP/INFJ (other inituitive forums) -- for instance. I do not think this points to me being "INTP/INFJ", necessarily, but it certain raises the question as to why the INTJ section is the most ("boring") or; static sub-forums for the inituitiveness, when the epitome of the INTJ is (openness); and colorful (Ni)-fuckery. The associate of mine to which I regard with having good knowledge of typology; conflated this with my so-called ISTP-ness (need for change/flexibility).

    (Ni)(ne)(Te)(ti)(Fi)(fe)(Se)(si). <-- Is my "function" stack; which seems to indicate a hybrid of some sort according to "MBTI/cognitive functions". But, who knows, and who cares ... (?) I prefer; and look toward socionics for more informative explanations. Which indicates an INTJ-ILI (utilizing all 8 functions), that resonates rather well than being another type.
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    Just jumping in here @Catwalk , when I was kid I used to walk around with prams and wear long t-shirts pretending they were dresses, so I must have small testicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fartface View Post
    Just jumping in here @Catwalk , when I was kid I used to walk around with prams and wear long t-shirts pretending they were dresses, so I must have small testicles.
    I haven't a clue what this means...

    When I was younger; I despised dresses (&) walked around in [pants] (&) scuffed sneakers. Until I gained more self-awareness (&) became repulsed with my mother dressing me -- I was still forced in eh; floral attire and dresses. Does this indicate I have testicles; and big bouncy ones at that .. (?)
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