[INTJ] Do any of you ever drive Ti users crazy (without necessarily realizing it?)

Do any of you ever drive Ti users crazy (without necessarily realizing it?)

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This is a discussion on Do any of you ever drive Ti users crazy (without necessarily realizing it?) within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I have noticed that Ni+Te ideas and systems sometimes, on occasion, infuriate Ti users. There is, with me, a little ...

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    Do any of you ever drive Ti users crazy (without necessarily realizing it?)

    I have noticed that Ni+Te ideas and systems sometimes, on occasion, infuriate Ti users.

    There is, with me, a little annoyance with the inverse, with NTJs seeing Ti as somewhat pedantic and not making the larger conceptual leaps. However, the respective NTJ annoyance isn't the same shaking, visible rage I sometimes notice with Ti users engaging Ni+Te.



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    I just drove an INTP to despair. I was mildly annoyed with his interest in examining what seemed to me obvious things so thought I'd push it with some very blunt statements to explain how the NTJ looks for practicality.

    He respected it when I said I was ignoring him to finish work. But I think he was insulted when I factually stated why his life's work was pointless to me. (This was perhaps a test to see if he'd engage on something else.) There wasn't any rage, just exasperation by that point. ...i have to say, it took quite a while and he really was trying to teach me something.

    I'd apologize, but that too feels a bit pointless at this stage.
    Last edited by Negotiator; 04-04-2018 at 04:09 PM.

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    i don't know. i do think i annoy/frustrate/disappoint them by being so uninterested in most of the stuff that they live to think/talk about. kind of an earthbound party pooper type thing. squelching.

    but i'm only vaguely on top of which types use what function set, not to mention not knowing most people's type most of the time anyway. so it isn't much use asking me to subdivide the people i have enraged by their thinking orientation.

    i'm not aware of having ever enraged an intp, for whatever that's worth. but they're mostly so phlegmatic that it's just as possible that i have, and just failed to realize it.
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    I have tertiary ti and do enjoy using it. Maybe I'm not as good at using it as a ti-dom would be but I love observing the world around me and overthinking things to no end. I know te-overthinks to an extent but is more external than internal. I do enjoy listening to the ideas of te-users and what they have to say, mainly ni-te users. ISTJs/si-te users or the ones I have met, they can have great ideas too but the ones I have met in real life, it's often hard to be on the same wavelength with them. I would say one thing is, te users tend to be great at arguing, take in their environment in a very different way that fe-users like me would. They are also good at arguing a certain viewpoint and seeing things for what they are. Ni with te can take creative spins on certain concepts that I never would have thought of. My experience with te is it processes information faster than my mind can possibly and it may take me a little time to keep up with but I do like talking with te-users.

    I know this is mainly aimed at ti-doms/ti-auxilleries but just wanted to ad my two cents as a non te-user. Things that may come as obvious to te-users may go over my head or something that I may think is obvious, they may not see it in the same way that I do. It's more that we look at the world in slightly different ways and have slightly different cognitive tools. If we are fellow ni-doms we can get along fine and there is a certain wavelength we can both on.
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    I was being tutored in English by an INTP and we almost argued on the oxford comma. He didn't believe in it, and I just remember thinking he wasn't making sense. He thought the same about me. He explained twice what I should do, and I was like, "it looks weird." He had this satisfied look on his face when I moved the comma. Lmao
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    Oh, very much so. A few of our conversations we have about the abstract nearly goes into all-out “wars”, where I frequently think his mindset is too rigid. In these instances, he fails to see my Ni-Te reasoning and fails to assume another perspective, whereas I have little interest in re-examining something already discussed (as it isn’t original).

    In the aforementioned case we both find something the other person agrees on and discuss that - it makes quite the good compromise. A few of the cases I had with him, where he acts being a computer in the process of crashing (probably Inf. Fe), usually tells me to break my idea down into smaller areas, so he can see the path I have taken. Seldom the proposed works, but that is an area that has to be developed - in these instances he is the anchor to my reality and I adjust the theory accordingly if it makes logical sense. On the occasion the logical reasoning works, the results are staggering for him, usually accompanied by shock at how accurate my predictions have been.

    At the risk of seeing as vain, those moments never fail to grow old. But we remain the best of friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synchronism View Post
    I was being tutored in English by an INTP and we almost argued on the oxford comma. He didn't believe in it, and I just remember thinking he wasn't making sense. He thought the same about me. He explained twice what I should do, and I was like, "it looks weird." He had this satisfied look on his face when I moved the comma. Lmao
    I wouldn't have even bothered engaging there. Is this an ENTJ-INTJ difference?

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator View Post
    I wouldn't have even bothered engaging there. Is this an ENTJ-INTJ difference?
    Don't think so. He and I were just crushing on each other.

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    Ti seems so distracted and pedantic. Do other INTJs find this?
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    INTP and I get along relatively, if not, very well, above almost any other type. (Te) is strong for myself; but it is relatively balanced with INTP. I find the INTPs Ti/Ne-combo, perhaps, the only intellectually "stimulating" pair that appease my Ni/Te rather well, as they give me the fuel I like to play with, (i.e., at least get (X)-started in some degree, whereas, I am not the main/only one rubbing sticks as usual), to work with, and contribute to. Arguably, the XNFP are a close, but still come up short, outside of feeling means, and also interest means - (e.g., a tad too dreamy/distracted/a nuisance in some respects), as far as mutuality in a particular direction.

    I have instead been told my "J" and Fi-function are more of a nuisance to "INTP", than anything Ni/Te.

    Due to the fact I close/shutdown things with a clean-cut more so than they. I expand my veins deliciously, then suddenly cut off circulation when "I've had enough of the useless fat," accumulating, - rather than consult with the INTP before making a brash 'decision' to hastily, if not, appearing to be a bit impatient and "pushy" with an INTP, to who I find a bit slower on the decisive end.

    That is, I close the door - much faster than an INTP (if not, am demonstrably aiming for it), when of course, the INTP was still enjoying the view. Coupled with my Fi-function, I can also appear a tad too "heavy/closed-off - (or sensitive)" in my delivery, which makes INTP reluctant to always engage.

    It appears Ti/Te distinctions are what we fancy about one another, not despise.
    Last edited by Catwalk; 04-09-2018 at 08:11 PM.
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