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This is a discussion on Do intj women know how to attract an intj man? Modern era. within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; So. What your opinion regarding to that particular topic mentioned in the title. Bc Ive seen a change in human ...

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    Do intj women know how to attract an intj man? Modern era.

    So. What your opinion regarding to that particular topic mentioned in the title.

    Bc Ive seen a change in human mating behavior in last 20 years. When I was a kid, girls used to go for the boys. Women would send all these signals for the game to begin. But I see that women/girls of these days are running more after their own voice, mirror image and luxury. I mean come on, incel guys, wth is wrong with all of us?

    Did I get it all wrong, but weren't men and women supposed to have dif roles in life?
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    So, is your issue that women are pursuing things beyond pleasing men and waiting to be courted? Or that some women are superficial (running after luxury and a mirror image)? Both?

    I am an INTJ woman who has been with an INTJ man (but currently is not). All of the men that I've dated have appreciated my independence. I don't doubt that some men would hate it -- but, given that, we'd never even make it to a first date. With things like Tinder, people more and more using technology, pop culture, dating has changed. Arguably, people expect instant gratification more and some argue that it's more superficial. While true, I think that this issue is far separated from NT women being independent.

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    Yes, you got it all wrong.
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    I would like to find somebody someday, but I'm personally working on being more stable career-wise before playing.

    Now I'm just worried that all the "good ones" will be gone by the time I'm done since I faced a few set-backs already ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstread View Post
    So. What your opinion regarding to that particular topic mentioned in the title.

    Bc Ive seen a change in human mating behavior in last 20 years. When I was a kid, girls used to go for the boys. Women would send all these signals for the game to begin. But I see that women/girls of these days are running more after their own voice, mirror image and luxury. I mean come on, incel guys, wth is wrong with all of us?

    Did I get it all wrong, but weren't men and women supposed to have dif roles in life?
    Quote Originally Posted by starscream430 View Post
    I would like to find somebody someday, but I'm personally working on being more stable career-wise before playing.

    Now I'm just worried that all the "good ones" will be gone by the time I'm done since I faced a few set-backs already ...
    In case both of you haven't realized it yet, there are causation relationships between your words.

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    It's because women are realizing their own worth outside of men. The fact that it's 2018 and there are dating apps, websites, etc, makes it inevitable for the "rules of dating" to change.

    I personally enjoy seeing traditional gender roles swapping. Of course, it depends on what works for each person. Some women still take joy in being a homemaker, others enjoy being businesswomen. Some men like the role being the main breadwinner, others like taking care of their kids.

    To answer the main question, I know of a few INTJ women who have had no issues finding an SO. Each have found their partner in a different way from the other.
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    Not sure if I get the question buuuut... I don't like waiting around, sending "signals" that men are often oblivous to. I am an INTJ - when I want something, I don't sit around idly, I go and get it. If a guy is offended by my active approach, he's not the right type of man for me.
    With my current SO, I've bypassed the whole dating game by basically telling him that I'm interested in more than friendship and things developed from there. Later he told me that he never considers romantic relationship unless the woman gives crystal clear information that she wants him in that way. He doesn't want "signs" or "hints", he even had instances of very unhappy women who told him that they wanted him but waited for him to make a move, and he said sorry, I am not doing that.
    My ENTJ friend has similar approach, he won't pursue a relationship unless the woman clearly states her interest. He used to "chase" women to win their interest but that never works.
    So I guess the rules may have changed a bit, but this is just anecdotal evidence. I believe there may still be many people who belive in the whole "women send signals" and "men pursue them" thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elight View Post
    Not sure if I get the question buuuut... I don't like waiting around, sending "signals" that men are often oblivous to. I am an INTJ - when I want something, I don't sit around idly, I go and get it. If a guy is offended by my active approach, he's not the right type of man for me.
    With my current SO, I've bypassed the whole dating game by basically telling him that I'm interested in more than friendship and things developed from there. Later he told me that he never considers romantic relationship unless the woman gives crystal clear information that she wants him in that way. He doesn't want "signs" or "hints", he even had instances of very unhappy women who told him that they wanted him but waited for him to make a move, and he said sorry, I am not doing that.
    My ENTJ friend has similar approach, he won't pursue a relationship unless the woman clearly states her interest. He used to "chase" women to win their interest but that never works.
    So I guess the rules may have changed a bit, but this is just anecdotal evidence. I believe there may still be many people who belive in the whole "women send signals" and "men pursue them" thing...
    I can relate to what you said, as anecdotes. Because INTJs are exceptions and not the norms since we are lacking the emotional "intelligence" in gauging other's emotion. Bluntness is given and expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstread View Post
    Did I get it all wrong, but weren't men and women supposed to have dif roles in life?
    In a healthy society, they do. However, under democracy, anything goes and will result inevitably in tyranny. See Plato's Republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstread View Post
    So. What your opinion regarding to that particular topic mentioned in the title.

    Bc Ive seen a change in human mating behavior in last 20 years. When I was a kid, girls used to go for the boys. Women would send all these signals for the game to begin. But I see that women/girls of these days are running more after their own voice, mirror image and luxury. I mean come on, incel guys, wth is wrong with all of us?

    Did I get it all wrong, but weren't men and women supposed to have dif roles in life?
    This seems as though proposing that no one has a mate and women and men aren't getting together. They are. It's just that incels have found each other on the internet and magnify their issue when it's really a small portion of the overall population. Probably the same amount it always has been of "incels", they just have a more readily found communication and grouping with each other now.

    It's like people who only read stories about crime and think crime has gone way up when it's down in many places.

    To answer the title or part of the question - I am an INTJ female with an INTJ male. I'm not sure how our "different roles in life" play into it. I'm not sure that I particularly purposefully "signaled" anything. We're both independent people that have gotten together. Yay. I dunno what else to say about that. *shrug*
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