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This is a discussion on Therapists for INTJs? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Negotiator Yes, try a Jungian analyst. I tried to find one myself, but only found someone who ...

  1. #11
    INTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator View Post
    Yes, try a Jungian analyst.

    I tried to find one myself, but only found someone who wanted to see me 3x a week Not sure how easy it is to find one online.

    I had a Freudian shrink who thought she could blame everything on my mother, which is partially true but she neglected the deep issues I was struggling with in recent years. She also told me that I need to conform to society as not even my friends would accept me flaws and all. (?)

    I then had a CBT shrink who handed out graphs on the definition of behavior, and would I have acted X or Y instead. I said that's irrelevant and I need help coping with Z and what's your opinion. We argued for 10 mins about what he should have an opinion on (my previous shrink did have opinions) and then I called it quits.
    Is three times a week good or bad?

    Yeah, great advice, suppress your inner self, conform to society... I can just feel the healing begin.

    I was always under the impression that I was supposed to have a lot of friends. When I finally figured out that wasn't true, it was a huge relief.

    I wonder how different my "affectation" as some might call it (referring to my INTJ female traits) would be perceived in ANY other culture in the world, particularly European culture. Do I feel like such a freak simply because I live in the "Extroverts-are-us, super macho" United States, particularly the South? I think INTJ females would be far more accepted in Germany, for example. Thoughts? How much is the development, application and understanding of MBTI affected by culture.

    I had a CBT shrink once. I think they had some good, practical strategies.... but, Wow. Graphs. Just choose your own adventure, I guess. If you choose X, flip to the next chapter in your life, because it will definitely happen exactly the way that you planned Yeah, if I had a shrink who started to show me graphs, I would be out the door too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    Is three times a week good or bad?

    Yeah, great advice, suppress your inner self, conform to society... I can just feel the healing begin.

    I was always under the impression that I was supposed to have a lot of friends. When I finally figured out that wasn't true, it was a huge relief.

    I wonder how different my "affectation" as some might call it (referring to my INTJ female traits) would be perceived in ANY other culture in the world, particularly European culture. Do I feel like such a freak simply because I live in the "Extroverts-are-us, super macho" United States, particularly the South? I think INTJ females would be far more accepted in Germany, for example. Thoughts? How much is the development, application and understanding of MBTI affected by culture.

    I had a CBT shrink once. I think they had some good, practical strategies.... but, Wow. Graphs. Just choose your own adventure, I guess. If you choose X, flip to the next chapter in your life, because it will definitely happen exactly the way that you planned Yeah, if I had a shrink who started to show me graphs, I would be out the door too.
    Three times a week would not only hurt my wallet, but it'd probably make me obsess too much over bad things and make me stuck in that.

    I forgot to mention that my former shrink also said I should be among more women because I am one. That is such narrow thinking, I'm already girly even if my personality is masculine at times. She insisted on labeling me in certain ways.

    Yeah, so I also decided that cultures are often very MBTI - if the UK is ESFJ, then Germany is ISTJ. The US probably SP. I grew up in an SJ country with SJ parents and boy life did just not make sense. Still, my friends are nearly all sensors as I found that if they're SP, they're open to cool stuff.

    As for having a lot of friends... I know a LOT of people, but I only count a handful as real friends who know me on a deeper level. Those bonds are more useful to me than other random people who just talk about the same stuff over and over.

  3. #13
    INTJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Judson Joist View Post
    I agree more with Captain America, philosophically speaking. Never was a Thanos fan.


    Ya, sounds dark, but I guess I'm more speaking in a Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs path, where philosophical problems are inherently connected to foundational/physical problems. Just as basic needs (food, water, shelter) are inextricably connected to mental health, but basic, foundational, physical needs have to be addressed, first, in order to even begin thinking about or healing any other philosophical, mental, emotional issues. I know there are other paths of thought on this as well, but....

    So, globally, if reasonable 'population control' measures were taken, (meaning truly implementing sex education, access to contraceptives and abortion, plus equal rights for females under the law and in society, amongst other measures)......

    ..... but, NOT intentionally wiping out parts of the population.... although if that happened naturally, as an environmental check and balance {disease, disaster etc}, it would be "helpful" in the bigger picture}). Pop control measures are far more likely to positively affect the 'universal human struggle', more so than any other "cause" (i.e. lets modify food to grow in conditions that it wouldn't normally grow in, so we can feed more people.... NO!).

    Basically what I'm saying is: ALL human problems can be traced back to overpopulation, causing scarcity of resources, causing destruction of the environment, causing pollution of remaining resources, etc etc etca. Every single one. So, if we're to address the more philosophical problems, then we'll need to address the basic physical ones first.

    Yeah, I'm not gonna murder my offspring like Thanos, I'm just not going to have any in the first place. I don't want humans to die, I just want to improve their situation by taking simple, affordable, and reasonable measures and prevent further chaos ..... but Noooooooo.... no one listen to meeeee.... just rely on religion to fix everything. Solved!

    What do you think Captain America's stance on abortion would be?
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    What do you think Captain America's stance on abortion would be?
    He'd be against it. He'd also be against gun control and global government, otherwise he wouldn't be true to his name.

  5. #15

    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    Do you have a personal preference for a particular theory that worked for you in therapy?
    It really depends on what the struggle is with. I do really well with CBT (Cognitive behaviour Therapy) and REBT (rational emotive behaviour therapy). I've gone through a *lot* of therapy throughout my life: partially because I needed to learn to manage a disorder which is now under control with meds and the tools I've learned in therapy and partially because I've had a difficult life as things happen, you know? For example, my brother died when I was a teenager (just giving an example so it doesn't sound like I have some sort of snowflake thing going on).

    In adulthood, psychotherapy is what works best for me: Analytical / Jungian therapy is what helped me come to terms with a lot of things that were difficult for me to process. All of the examples of therapists that I listed would use a form of psychotherapy, so they all fall under that umbrella.
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    all the reasons why this is my current favourite thread on perc:

    Quote Originally Posted by Negotiator View Post
    We argued for 10 mins about what he should have an opinion on (my previous shrink did have opinions) and then I called it quits.
    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    I like dogs ok, but I don't need to pet one while I'm trying to focus on telling someone my darkest secrets
    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    I'm probably just bored and when I realize it's not going to work, I start to analyze them.
    i get curious about the mechanics of it, and the curiosity is genuine. one time i caught my guy sizing me up as a suicide risk, which he copped to right away when i called him on it. we ended up having an interesting little conversation about what he would be obligated to do if, and what 'if' would look like, etc. i don't know if he went home asking himself if he'd just handed me the cheat sheet on gaming the whole suicide-prevention system, but it didn't matter. it still would have been the right way to call it - for someone like me. spoiler: i'm not a suicide risk and if i were, it would STILL be the right call to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    Population control is the universal fix to the whole gamut of human struggle.
    if you define 'overpopulation' as 'more than one introvert in a given space' . . . mmmwell, i could ship that :D

    As far as the problem of 'human snuggle', I do recommend cats, coffee, couches and ENFPs :).
    plus one for cats. but i don't recommend snuggling coffee. it leaves a wet spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    I guess I'm more speaking in a Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
    i like the maslow hierarchy. on the other hand, i'm glad that when i discovered it in my late teens, i didn't know that maslow himself assumed it was only applicable to men. 'women are different', is what betty friedan says he told her when she asked him how come he didn't even ask any women how they felt about things.

    Basically what I'm saying is: ALL human problems can be traced back to overpopulation
    i just don't agree here. but i don't want to derail a thread i'm enjoying so much.

    What do you think Captain America's stance on abortion would be?
    i didn't know he had genitals. but i don't watch a lot of movies, so maybe i'm wrong.
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  7. #17

    I would suggest Enneagram instead.


    Index of Subjects


    Your Basic Personality Type
    The Centers
    The Wing
    The Levels of Development
    Directions of Integration (Growth) and Disintegration (Stress)

    The Three Instincts
    Typing Yourself and Others

  8. #18

    I've had two counselors in the past. Both of which I liked.

    The first is a professor in psychology and had published papers as well as being active in community work and support to improve the mental well being of the public.

    The second is a psychiatrist that does counseling.

    Both are familiar with personality theory. I don't think you have to focus on counselors that understands personality theory. All the goods ones will by default be familiar with it. I think to find good counselors you need to identify those with certain achievements in the community, be it either publishing papers or actual activity in the community.
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  9. #19

    I'm also enjoying this thread quite a bit. I don't have much experience with therapists who integrate typology into their practice (beyond initial assessments, sometimes), but, this is too much to pass up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    Population control is the universal fix to the whole gamut of human struggle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Judson Joist View Post
    I agree more with Captain America, philosophically speaking. Never was a Thanos fan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Behvin View Post
    Yeah, I'm not gonna murder my offspring like Thanos, I'm just not going to have any in the first place.
    I'm more of a Darkseid fan, but didn't Thanos (in the comics) wipe out the population of the universe just to impress a girl? Seems to me that human struggle is 'omnipresent.'

     
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  10. #20

    Try 7cups.com; which apparently was started by a one Moriarty.

    AFAIK it's free; and you can browse, pick, choose who you'd like help from. Statistically, you'd think there should be at least one member there that fits your requirements...


     
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