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This is a discussion on What Happens When An INTJ Is Betrayed??????? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by EyesOpen Yeah, I haven’t had it happen. I have faded out on people that seem untrustworthy but ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyesOpen View Post
    Yeah, I haven’t had it happen. I have faded out on people that seem untrustworthy but haven’t done anything specific to me (which is probably why this hasn’t happened). So I extrapolate that if something I would consider “betrayal” would happen, it’d just be a “see ya” deal - especially if I let them be close/trusted enough to actually end up feeling “betrayed”.
    I was discussing this with my husband. To me betrayal is (maybe) a cheating spouse. Or someone wiping out my bank account. Something like that. In other words, not normal human failings but a planned attack.

    This is not something I expect to encounter often enough to have a “How do you handle” discussion, as if it’s a recurring theme. Then again I have a pretty sensitive radar and am not likely to allow those sorts access.

    Of course, being my husband, our conversation quickly turned into Caesar jokes with Brutus totting up grievances and adding to the stabbing tally...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Flower View Post
    I was discussing this with my husband. To me betrayal is (maybe) a cheating spouse. Or someone wiping out my bank account. Something like that. In other words, not normal human failings but a planned attack.
    Same. But I hear stories of people doing some really heinous shit like that to other people. Some of my (less discerning?) friends have had some really awful friends. There are some petty people out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyesOpen View Post
    Same. But I hear stories of people doing some really heinous shit like that to other people. Some of my (less discerning?) friends have had some really awful friends. There are some petty people out there.
    I have some people in my orbit who have been victimized. By addicts, mostly. Not exclusively.

    I briefly worked in a bank and frankly was horrified by some of it. Be careful who you add to your accounts is my warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Flower View Post
    I have some people in my orbit who have been victimized. By addicts, mostly. Not exclusively.

    I briefly worked in a bank and frankly was horrified by some of it. Be careful who you add to your accounts is my warning.
    Et tu, brute?

    I sincerely believe that majority of INTJ already see what is coming their way to the point of not having to get stabbed in the first place to know the pain. So it could be rare to have such betrayal moment. However, I still can be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contradictionary View Post
    That's what I put in my edited part because actually the door slam is only applies NOW.

    I simply move on and by the time passes by I would have a renewed benefit of the doubt for the said person. Because I believe people will somewhat mature, recognize their mistakes and do their best within their capacity to improve. As I certainly did.
    That's a great thing to be able to do that.
    As I've grown older and my INTJ radar keener, I almost never detect that level of authenticity and humility in others. Most are too proud and will, despite outward friendliness and so forth, close the door somewhere within themselves to me from that point on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contradictionary View Post
    Et tu, brute?

    I sincerely believe that majority of INTJ already see what is coming their way to the point of not having to get stabbed in the first place to know the pain. So it could be rare to have such betrayal moment. However, I still can be wrong though.
    That's so true.
    So, in a way, if it does happen, we allowed it to happen. Why? I don't know. Maybe we see the pattern of behavior into the future to it's natural end. And, realize that others need to go through that in their life path. Almost like we've already gone through it, like reading ahead in an unfolding story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Flower View Post
    I have some people in my orbit who have been victimized. By addicts, mostly. Not exclusively.

    I briefly worked in a bank and frankly was horrified by some of it. Be careful who you add to your accounts is my warning.
    Yes.
    Trust nobody.
    Nobody.
    Nobody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Flower View Post
    I was discussing this with my husband. To me betrayal is (maybe) a cheating spouse. Or someone wiping out my bank account. Something like that. In other words, not normal human failings but a planned attack.

    This is not something I expect to encounter often enough to have a “How do you handle” discussion, as if it’s a recurring theme. Then again I have a pretty sensitive radar and am not likely to allow those sorts access.

    Of course, being my husband, our conversation quickly turned into Caesar jokes with Brutus totting up grievances and adding to the stabbing tally...
    Yes.
    The worse betrayals are often amongst family and dear friends.
    And INTJ will not be on guard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamuela View Post
    That's so true.
    So, in a way, if it does happen, we allowed it to happen. Why? I don't know. Maybe we see the pattern of behavior into the future to it's natural end. And, realize that others need to go through that in their life path. Almost like we've already gone through it, like reading ahead in an unfolding story.
    It could be because of the closest people factor. Kind of helpless with that.

    Or simply as learning curves. INTJ know that certain things will happen but still they secretly wanted to be wrong.

    The grind is the best apparatus to sharpen the knive, as masochistic as it sounds. Illegitimi non carborundum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by contradictionary View Post
    It could be because of the closest people factor. Kind of helpless with that.

    Or simply as learning curves. INTJ know that certain things will happen but still they secretly wanted to be wrong.

    The grind is the best apparatus to sharpen the knive, as masochistic as it sounds. Illegitimi non carborundum!
    Coincidentally, that's something I've said to my wife since forever, "I wish someone would prove me wrong". But, they never do. If they were fake, then they were fake. If they were not a person of integrity, then that was that. And so forth.
    I would be the lst one to be happy for someone that didn't disappoint to a higher standard.
    It's as if I can see into someone's soul and future. People are transparent.
    I don't care to. But it just is.


     
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