[INTJ] Can Fi Development Happen In Solitude?

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This is a discussion on Can Fi Development Happen In Solitude? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; For those of you who answer 'yes,' I would appreciate it if you could describe what means are necessary. For ...

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    Can Fi Development Happen In Solitude?

    For those of you who answer 'yes,' I would appreciate it if you could describe what means are necessary.

    For those who answer 'no,' please state your reason(s).

    Thank you.
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    i meant to get back to this . . .

    i'm not sure what you mean by 'development'. actual evolution and change? or more like just getting acquainted with your fi and comfortable letting it play a role in your everyday life.

    whichever though. i think the answer is 'both'. on the one hand, i need solitude and separation from outside influences to 'hear' my fi a lot of the time. on the other, it is about values and principles and i find that almost always, the impetus to think about any of them always comes from outside.

    i guess imo collecting inputs needs the external world. processing the inputs needs separation from that same world. idk if that helps you any.

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    I'm also unsure what "developing Fi" means in this question. Like, clarifying one's values? Getting in touch with the feels? Knowing where you stand in the grand scheme of life and society? These questions probably can't be answered from a purely inward-seeking vantage, since so many of the blanks need to be filled with the imagination, or go unexplored altogether. Fi tends to try, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilysocks View Post

    i guess imo collecting inputs needs the external world. processing the inputs needs separation from that same world. idk if that helps you any.
    This is the struggle in my experience. Collecting and retreating, collecting and retreating, over and over. It would be nice if I could just stay in my head and never come out, but Te demands a more fact-driven approach.
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    It can happen in solitude, but you need experiences in order to contemplate how they make you feel and relate to them. And yes, these experiences can actually be fictional as studies have shown reading fictional stories to increase feelings of empathy and the ability to recognize the emotional states of oneself and others.



    Now give me some advice for getting a handle on my Te (pretty please), as gut reactions to events rather than examining options have sometimes led to more troublesome situations than were necessary.

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    Fi, and to some degree Fe, would grow with time and experience.

    By experience it means interacting with external world.

    Which you will need to reflect in your solitude. For that eureka moment.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lilysocks
    i'm not sure what you mean by 'development'. actual evolution and change?
    On one hand, perhaps it is the criteria for assessing whether a subject is broken, and to what degree; can it be repaired, or preserved? Is it simply beyond redemption?

    On the other hand, perhaps it is the methods we employ to fix it that should be called into question?

    Our good intentions leading us down the road to hell, notwithstanding.

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    Hm. I was going to say yes assuming you mean getting in touch with your feelings and developing empathy, with the example being listening to podcasts about other peoples's lives and problems. But I guess technically, that isn't doing it in solitude because you're developing via learning from others.
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    From a Jungian perspective, development means increased ego-syntonicity: basically, that Fi (or generally tertiary function across types) would become more compatible with your sense of self.

    In practice, the "goal" here (if you want to do this at all) should be making the tertiary function less ego-dystonic by understanding and accepting its perspective more. Then, as you allow it into consciousness more, you repress it less, and it "develops".

    However, your tertiary function is not going to become more ego-syntonic than your secondary function.

    The work of coming to understand and accept the tertiary Fi perspective can be done in isolation, at least initially.

    The colloquial definition of "development" is about developing a stronger skillset around that function. I have tertiary Fe and even that -- even as a people-focused, extraverted function -- can be developed in isolation; at least, I've managed to help it a little bit, by pre-thinking certain scenarios like job interviews. But, this is the colloquial definition of "development", not making Fe less ego-dystonic, since it's still about fulfilling ego goals using Fe and not about the Fe perspective for its own sake.
    Last edited by counterintuitive; 03-05-2020 at 10:47 PM.
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