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    Ultimate visual typing series



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    INTJ - The Scientists


    Doesn't work.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by MissJordan View Post
    Doesn't work.
    If you mean the video, it is working for me.

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    INTJ - The Scientists


    lol they typed Feynman as entj

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    Quote Originally Posted by orni View Post

    lol they typed Feynman as entj




    I'd buy ENTJ for Feynman.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post



    I'd buy ENTJ for Feynman.
    I've read all his books and watched his videos. His jocular personality, goading playfulness, love of wordplay, his ramping of enthusiasm as he talks, explanation by metaphor, unconcern for details -- are really typical ENTP hallmarks.


    While I think this method may have something to it, I wonder if its not picking up on temporary inclinations.

    for example, with a professor like Feynman, he will have many canned explanations he's used before in lectures and interviews. When he's reciting, he's not in his 'native Ne-Ti' mode. ..but rather talking thought an accepted system....so I can see how this can look Te-Ni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdahak View Post
    for example, with a professor like Feynman, he will have many canned explanations he's used before in lectures and interviews. When he's reciting, he's not in his 'native Ne-Ti' mode. ..but rather talking thought an accepted system....so I can see how this can look Te-Ni.
    Systems, planning ahead... that sounds very J and very Ni-Se

    While ENTPs can talk at length about what they are interested in they don't orbit the same intuitive nugget so intently. In the magnet video he gets very badly stuck in his 'thing that is very hard to explain' explanation.

    A high Ni fumble is to perceive something from different angles thus expanding your understanding of it, then, in trying to explain and think simultaneously, you end up not vocalizing the various angles properly and it sounds like you are going round in circles.

    The magnet video is exactly like this, his brain was cooking but he was boring. ENxPs seem to have much better vocal packaging of ideas.

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    Wow. The leanback , check. What causes that?

    l don't really think these people are monotone though. My INTJ was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdahak View Post
    I've read all his books and watched his videos. His jocular personality, goading playfulness, love of wordplay, his ramping of enthusiasm as he talks, explanation by metaphor, unconcern for details -- are really typical ENTP hallmarks.
    These are all ENTJ hallmarks also, they are Ns with a way with words, extroverted and tend to accelerate past details.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Quote Originally Posted by Bardo View Post
    Systems, planning ahead... that sounds very J and very Ni-Se

    While ENTPs can talk at length about what they are interested in they don't orbit the same intuitive nugget so intently. In the magnet video he gets very badly stuck in his 'thing that is very hard to explain' explanation.

    A high Ni fumble is to perceive something from different angles thus expanding your understanding of it, then, in trying to explain and think simultaneously, you end up not vocalizing the various angles properly and it sounds like you are going round in circles.

    The magnet video is exactly like this, his brain was cooking but he was boring. ENxPs seem to have much better vocal packaging of ideas.

    That is my point. As a college professor you're called on to present the same talk, lecture, material over and over. If it is something that you understand well, there is nothing much left for intuition to squeeze out of it. So you default into canned responses and demonstrations that work well.


    I re-watched the video. In truth, he sounds rather tired and slightly annoyed. But I disagree with your analysis:

    Badly stuck? He's not stuck at all and he's not going in circles.

    He's teaching the interviewer that his question is pointless because it comes from a narrow, limited, perspective.
    This is actually an incredibly valuable, very widely lateral insight into physics.

    The interviewer finds magnets strange, but the fact that he can't pass his hand through a wall un-strange.
    Feynman explains in fact they're actually the same forces at work, and that his question is therefore almost silly.

    And more to the point, he's saying that any non-mathematical analogy is not a satisfactory explanation, because it is simply substituting one set of imprecise words for another. It doesn't get one any closer to the truth.

    This is a very NP perspective, in my opinion.


     
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