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This is a discussion on The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTJ. within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Abraxas 999 pages. So, today I started reading a new book I bought on Enneagram (I bought ...

  1. #10011
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    999 pages.

    So, today I started reading a new book I bought on Enneagram (I bought it a while ago actually but never got around to reading it) at work. The book helped me to realize I'm definitely a 9w1, but even more significantly, explains far more about me as a person down to the deepest core than MBTI has so far. In fact, it frames all my confusion about my MBTI type perfectly - just as @bethdeth predicted from my start here on PerC - which is really pretty astonishing. She knew I was a 9w1 all along. Damn, I even got my wing wrong - I thought I was a w8 at first, but I was still projecting. When I finally read this book today, I really identified with the 9w1 description, almost every word of it. If anyone wants, send me a PM and I'll type up the whole chapter on 9's for you.

    I have to share the positive side of this realization, because it means a lot to me. I've always known that my basic needs and fears all stem from wanting to be seen as a 'good' person by others, and that this is really what threatens my inner peace the most. And that is precisely what the book describes about 9w1s. Now, being an INTJ means I have a unique and special gift - a very rare perspective combined with the 9w1 enneatype. I have the advantage of being able to take an objective (Te) 'make it make sense' approach to figuring out what is 'good' (Fi) and imagining a strategy (Ni) for achieving that goal. When I reach the top three healthy levels of type 9 (which I believe I am already in) I will have a stronger sense of knowing what that good is and how to achieve it, and the motivation to actualize that vision through 3'ish assertiveness.

    The trap is fear of rejection and the anxiety that comes from it. As long as I don't take it personally when others disagree, and instead focus on trying to resolve any issues peacefully and responsibly, everything should work out for me in life. And honestly, I can say that makes a lot of sense to me personally, because that is really the biggest thing holding me back in my life at this point. I already tend to focus on the positive side of things and being encouraging to others is my primary way of interacting - to the extent that I thought I might actually rely more on Fe than Te for my extroverted judgment. I resolved this confusion by recognizing that when I try to solve a problem in life that involves the feelings of other people I use the 'golden rule' - do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is more or less the definition of subjective ethical judgement, and Fi is subjective, ethical, and judgmental. Furthermore, I am choosing it out of a sense of practicality, because I identify with it conceptually as the most logical choice.
    From what you wrote, I would have to conclude that I am also a 9w1.

    Also, if your offer to PM the chapter on 9s is still open, I'd be very interested.
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  2. #10012
    INTJ - The Scientists

    what do 5's disintegrate to under stress, and what disintegrates to a 5 when stressed?

  3. #10013
    Unknown Personality

    Quote Originally Posted by lolthevoidlol View Post
    what do 5's disintegrate to under stress, and what disintegrates to a 5 when stressed?
    5 -> 7
    8 -> 5
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  4. #10014
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Just read a book called "Flourish" It dispells the myth that only those who act giddy all the time are actually happy and having a high quality of life... a must read for all INT's
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  5. #10015
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleptic View Post
    @Sela

    We have a boxer, who usually barks and dances a very loud jig when a stranger is at the door. But either she was in the back yard at the time or I didn't hear her as I was downstairs.

    At any rate, I'd prefer strangers just stay the fuck out of my home. XP
    Really? That sounds reasonable... Maybe posting a sign that says "robbery and other unauthorized entry is strictly prohibited" would also help?
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  6. #10016
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Ocean View Post
    Only when someone helps me take off my gimp suit.

    New realms of awesomeness!
    I hereby authorize you to leave the house... ; )
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  7. #10017
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Monkey Fritz View Post
    As I just said, there is a big difference once you add the wings. 9 descriptions don't fit me very well at all, thus I never really considered it as a possibility. Then @bethdeth linked me a site which explained the difference between a 9w1 and a 9w8, and 9w1 really fit me. Maybe she still remembers what site that was?
    That would be interesting, though I must admit thinking about enneagram the first time gave me such a headache that I don't want to get sucked into the ambiguity again. If that site is good though, I wouldn't mind a read.

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleptic View Post
    I heard something on the news a couple years back about some country putting QR codes on their street signs.
    You've just ruined one of my surprises :(



    Quote Originally Posted by Isis View Post
    I hereby authorize you to leave the house... ; )
    So you're offering to remove my cod piece?

  8. #10018
    Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Abraxas View Post
    @FlaylexFayte


    414. That’s an error.
    The requested URL /search... is too large to process. That’s all we know.
    Hmmm... someone else got that, too. I wonder why... works just fine for me! :(

    It doesn't really do anything amazing, though - those little characters just pop up all over the page and it looks insane.

  9. #10019
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Ocean View Post
    So you're offering to remove my cod piece?
    I thought you said "helps"?

  10. #10020
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Ocean View Post
    That would be interesting, though I must admit thinking about enneagram the first time gave me such a headache that I don't want to get sucked into the ambiguity again. If that site is good though, I wouldn't mind a read.
    I just did a type-me thread in the Enneagram section. Apparently I'm sort of mostly a 6. But then I started looking at wings, and phobic/counterphobic, and sexual/social/security types, and my head started to hurt. I can see that it could be useful for some, but there are far more variants and permutations than I can make any sense of.
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