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#1 ·
So I found this in the INFP section and thought it would be useful for my fellow INTJS. Courtesy of Nova.

Take issue with something going on in society?

Having a bad day?

Have something on your mind that wont go away?

Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?


Post your vent here!



+ And a friendly reminder to please be respectful to other members and leave your baggage at the door.
 
#21,021 ·
That was kinda my reaction, but this was on the paperwork from his blood panel.

I know the doctors here are idiots, and the hospital is out to kill people, but it still seems unlikely they wrote their own averages.
There must have been some kind of mistake or misunderstanding, having a ph of 6.5 or lower and being conscious is impossible. This is not something that a doctor can guess wrong, it's no "I mistook this dark spot for a tumor", this is a thing that should be absolutely clear in the mind of any second year med-school student.
I asked you if it was a urine test rather than a blood test because 5.0-8.0 is pretty much the average range of urine ph. The average blood ph is between 7.3 and 7.5 having at 5 would mean that it's 23 times more acidic than normal since we're talking about a logaritmic scale.

Look at this figure:






It explains what diagnosis you should make given ph, [HCO3] and [H+] values. You see how ph doesn't even go lower than 7.0? That because there is no point in showing what happens at those levels.
 
#21,023 ·
As far as I remember, potassium and magnesium are linked together. If you supplement with one, maybe it would be a good idea to supplement with the other one as well. I would heavily encourage you to be careful when supplementing with potassium (2 grams per day max). Magnesium overdose is easy to detect (diarrhea), but potassium overdose can result in a heart attack.
Maybe cutting all acidic foods would be a plus if you don't already do it -> no more grains/sugars.
Yeah, magnesium is important too. The problem for me is supplements in general, they are hard to find without something in the supplement that will cause it's own issues. Potassium supplements are useless, you practically get more from a single banana than you can safely consume from supliments. And when the recommended daily intake is equal to a bunch of bananas...

But pretty much everything in the nutrition is linked, as calcium and magnesium are too.

There must have been some kind of mistake or misunderstanding, having a ph of 6.5 or lower and being conscious is impossible. This is not something that a doctor can guess wrong, it's no "I mistook this dark spot for a tumor", this is a thing that should be absolutely clear in the mind of any second year med-school student.
I asked you if it was a urine test rather than a blood test because 5.0-8.0 is pretty much the average range of urine ph. The average blood ph is between 7.3 and 7.5 having at 5 would mean that it's 23 times more acidic than normal since we're talking about a logaritmic scale.

Look at this figure:






It explains what diagnosis you should make given ph, [HCO3] and [H+] values. You see how ph doesn't even go lower than 7.0? That because there is no point in showing what happens at those levels.
I'll have to double check with my dad, I was there when he was going over it but didn't actually look at the paperwork myself. It was supposed to be a blood panel, and I made him reread the PH balance and be sure it said 6.0. Cause it shocked me when he read over it.
His doctor apparently never even brought it up.

Acidic metabolisms are common in my family, and PH is commonly ignored in the states. (Along with, well, health and nutrition in general.) According to my dad he's been told by doctors all his life that his ph was acidic, usually in passing with very little care because that's just "normal" for some people. "Eat less tomatoes" and on to other topics.
 
#21,024 ·
Some days I think the invention of the internet and social media were a step backward in humanity's development.
I think what it shows is that humans are humans. We're the same people throughout history, just living in different context. The anonymity of the internet removes some of the social and legal consequences of bad behavior, and civil discourse and tolerance go out the window.
 
#21,025 ·
Acidic metabolisms are common in my family, and PH is commonly ignored in the states. (Along with, well, health and nutrition in general.) According to my dad he's been told by doctors all his life that his ph was acidic, usually in passing with very little care because that's just "normal" for some people. "Eat less tomatoes" and on to other topics.
I understand what you're saying this but "acidic" usually means between 7.3 and 7.1, while "highly acidic" is lower 7.1, it's still a long way from 6.0. Maybe your dad read a couple lines up or down by mistake, it happens.
 
#21,026 ·
It boggles my mind how quickly a group of fans can go from 'This person is perfect, I love them, they are amazing, let me build a shrine in my closet' to 'This person is so stupid and ignorant, they are the anti-christ, how could you be so heartless' when said person expresses themselves in the form of a harmless opinion.

In fact, it boggles my mind how fast people turn from amiable conversationalists to raging lunatics when there is an opinion expressed that is even marginally against their own.

I'm getting confused by the masses. Am I supposed to be a free-thinking person who forms my own mind and self....or am I supposed to be closed-minded and follow the majority blindly? Some days I think the invention of the internet and social media were a step backward in humanity's development.

Find a forum with 15 athiests raging about how the world would be a better place if all religious people could be rounded up and burned alive. (This doesn't require some seedy corner of the internet, that kind of behavior is publicly expressed all the time.)

Physically relocate those people into a room with a religious person.

Crowd mentality would see the religious person dead within an hour. Especially if that person decided to stand up for their beliefs.

Because that is what human nature has been for thousands of years, and that nature is what people are exposed to on the internet in unbridled form. Human beings are inherently intolerant of foreign ideology, and crowd mentality will see that rise to lethal levels for as long as there are differences among the population.

If anything the internet gives people an outlet.
But with crime statistics what they are, that outlet is as bad of an influence on behavior as it is a release.
Some people need a proper outlet to prevent them from acting on an internal bias.
Some people are spurned to action by having their outlet 'justified' by their peers.

Civilization and Society are two different things.

Civilization has changed, and differs from place to place. Society is hardly any different. The gangs of Africa, inner cities, and even mafias are like the feudal states, waring tribes, and bickering familial lineages of any other time period. And any student of history knows that our first world civilizations are no different from that of the roman or greek empires. (Eerily so, especially right before they fell.) The origin of the very word "forum" comes from the idea of doing exactly what we are doing right now, only in person a few centuries ago.

The only difference is that you see it. If it weren't for the internet I would never enter a KKK meeting, might even think "racism" is just that way old people sometimes say politically incorrect things. But thanks to the internet I get to see racism and intolerance everywhere I look, just like everyone else. It's disgusting, but it's always been there.

I wouldn't know about death and war in Africa if it wasn't for the internet either. But it's been that way for centuries.
 
#21,027 ·
Find a forum with 15 athiests raging about how the world would be a better place if all religious people could be rounded up and burned alive. (This doesn't require some seedy corner of the internet, that kind of behavior is publicly expressed all the time.)

Physically relocate those people into a room with a religious person.

Crowd mentality would see the religious person dead within an hour. Especially if that person decided to stand up for their beliefs.

Because that is what human nature has been for thousands of years, and that nature is what people are exposed to on the internet in unbridled form. Human beings are inherently intolerant of foreign ideology, and crowd mentality will see that rise to lethal levels for as long as there are differences among the population.

If anything the internet gives people an outlet.
But with crime statistics what they are, that outlet is as bad of an influence on behavior as it is a release.
Some people need a proper outlet to prevent them from acting on an internal bias.
Some people are spurned to action by having their outlet 'justified' by their peers.

Civilization and Society are two different things.

Civilization has changed, and differs from place to place. Society is hardly any different. The gangs of Africa, inner cities, and even mafias are like the feudal states, waring tribes, and bickering familial lineages of any other time period. And any student of history knows that our first world civilizations are no different from that of the roman or greek empires. (Eerily so, especially right before they fell.) The origin of the very word "forum" comes from the idea of doing exactly what we are doing right now, only in person a few centuries ago.

The only difference is that you see it. If it weren't for the internet I would never enter a KKK meeting, might even think "racism" is just that way old people sometimes say politically incorrect things. But thanks to the internet I get to see racism and intolerance everywhere I look, just like everyone else. It's disgusting, but it's always been there.

I wouldn't know about death and war in Africa if it wasn't for the internet either. But it's been that way for centuries.
I miss you, you breath-of-fresh-air. You don't post much these days. :eek:
 
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#21,028 ·
I miss you, you breath-of-fresh-air. You don't post much these days. :eek:
:p
Usually too busy, trying to take a break from work while waiting for my project to be reviewed.

Sadness:
http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/WCT_Martyrs_Extract.pdf

Also note on page 4 which ideological group has historically done more killing of people for their beliefs than any other. Guess I should be happy they are mostly content with raging on the internet for no good reason.
 
#21,029 ·
:p
Usually too busy, trying to take a break from work while waiting for my project to be reviewed.

Sadness:
http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/WCT_Martyrs_Extract.pdf

Also note on page 4 which ideological group has historically done more killing of people for their beliefs than any other. Guess I should be happy they are mostly content with raging on the internet for no good reason.
LOL.

They'd deny it by saying that states are not always atheist, therefore the sample is flawed.
 
#21,031 ·
Ah, your reply made my day. Very valid points and I will agree internet rage is preferable to.....other extracurricular activities.

At the time, I was merely venting and annoyed.

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#21,032 ·
#21,034 ·
Why do I leave everything for last minute O.O !!!
I have to get a good night sleep, wake up early, do my project that I had since 3 weeks in less than 3 hours, and finally copy it on a CD.
Because that's when you do your best work.

At least that's what I tell myself when I do it.

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#21,035 ·
Because that's when you do your best work.

At least that's what I tell myself when I do it.

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The same applies for me. Sometimes I even find myself consciously procrastinating as I know I tend to excel in time-sensitive situations. I often seem to be a victim of writer's block or lack of creativity with projects until near their due date.
 
#21,039 ·
[SUB]hey buddy, it's ok. I lost my job 4 months ago, and realized shortly after the job was not a good fit for me. So now I have a new goal and a more specified role I am aiming for. I'm excited.[/SUB]
 
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