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#1 ·
So I found this in the INFP section and thought it would be useful for my fellow INTJS. Courtesy of Nova.

Take issue with something going on in society?

Having a bad day?

Have something on your mind that wont go away?

Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?


Post your vent here!



+ And a friendly reminder to please be respectful to other members and leave your baggage at the door.
 
#19,821 ·
I think I need to sit absolutely, perfectly still, in the silence of my room, in the dark, with the fan on, and concentrate on absorbing information, to end up feeling better. I was so frustrated and annoyed at everything when I came home, but I feel like all the chemicals in my body have changed and I'm feeling peaceful and energized.
 
#19,822 ·
you know you're balls deep in a lit search when you have enough pdfs open to make your fancy work comp wheeze
 
#19,823 ·
I think I need to sit absolutely, perfectly still, in the silence of my room, in the dark, with the fan on, and concentrate on absorbing information, to end up feeling better. I was so frustrated and annoyed at everything when I came home, but I feel like all the chemicals in my body have changed and I'm feeling peaceful and energized.
Does this help you? Shutting off all stimuli around you?

I have the same issue. Over and over again, I get frustrated and over-energized by the dumbest crap, and cannot keep it inside, electing to dump it into this forum instead. That method isn't working, it's making it all the worse. There are times I think I actually enjoy it and hate it at the same time.

I need your 9 calmness luemb XD HAND IT OVER!!!!!!!!
 
#19,824 ·
Does this help you? Shutting off all stimuli around you?

I have the same issue. Over and over again, I get frustrated and over-energized by the dumbest crap, and cannot keep it inside, electing to dump it into this forum instead. That method isn't working, it's making it all the worse. There are times I think I actually enjoy it and hate it at the same time.

I need your 9 calmness luemb XD HAND IT OVER!!!!!!!!
:p

Yeah, somewhere along the snowballing I was frustrated by some dumb argument/troll on the INTP forum... so pointless.

I haven't been feeling well for a while, plus school stress, leading to a lack of sleep and a level of annoyance and frustration in general. Also I've been socializing too much I think, as a 9 enjoying the connection, but as an INTJ (and a 9) needing to retreat and untangle my mind.

And yes, I also feel like I enjoy it and hate it at the same time. So weird. :p


But yes, it helped me a TON. I have not felt that refreshed/peaceful for a very long time. It's just been stress upon stress upon stress for a very long time for me. I find that certain stimuli bothers me a lot, certain fan pitches, people talking, the radio, ect. Also I think I've been having a slight allergic reaction to perfumes and fragrances too. Sitting perfectly still is one of the best ways to relax, at least for me. I don't know that everyone can do that, maybe it's just me. I can't relax with the stimuli around though, either I am tense or I have a headache. But I had to block out the stressing thoughts too, and just focus on absorbing information. I think I spent that time looking at pictures or reading articles or Wired or something similar. I don't really remember. :p I just remember the feeling afterwards, of being peaceful and energized.
 
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#19,829 ·
it's foolishly early, and foggy as fuck. i'm sitting next to the window in my living room, looking out at the fog and being all precious and evocative.

the first vacation i ever remember being taken on was in the drakensberg. i was so little i only remember montages from it, but fog was one of the clearer facets. coming from the highveld, i'd never even imagined such stuff. i still feel a little bit three-years-old and drakensbergy any time that i'm looking at fog. cold horrible damp coldness, and mountains and rain, and a babysitter who took all the clay we'd picked out of the tires of the car and made us a perfect little nest, with a hen and a cluster of eggs, to sit inside it. magic.

so today i might get the chance to shotgun around all day with mr theatre dude. he and his wild-west confederate have a play in rehearsal, and he's found himself being the props guy. and the sets guy, and i gather the assistant stage manager too. i said i would come with him and be an elf if i wasn't going to be in the way.

i know it's his work, and he's probably going to be in anal manic obnoxious type-a mode all day. and i will be respectful of the fact that he's working, i swear. i might be nothing but a bloody nuisance, and in fact he might decide he doesn't want me around. but all the same, i can't quite quell the drakensberg flashback feeling.
 
#19,832 ·
Trying to go along just to get along Isn't really working out for me. Friend suggested I start posting here to maybe be among like minded folk. I used to have one friend that I jived with as far as thinking the same things but then they decided to suppress themselves to get along with the extroverts of the world and I'm too "negative" to be around. I can't sugar coat things for people it feels like lying. I'm accused constantly of being irrational and antagonistic. I refuse to change my entire way of thinking and agree with things I do not agree with just to get along with people. If being myself means being alone then bring on the cats. :dry:
 
#19,834 ·
Ti/Te battle

Y'all might enjoy this.

I'd say INTJs have to conciously work out what our opinion is on certain topics.
INTJs are hesitant when it comes to such emotional or to conclude something away from facts.


Veganism:
The first highly speculative question is the difference between caring and not. How do I feel about animals dying if I've never witnessed it? Like feeling the size of a billion, it hard to feel the exact scale when dinner is served.
I'm a fairly "cold" person, maybe I'd be fine. Surely that my life is so separate from death that it might be unnerving casts doubt on the importance of my opinion for it being "sheltered" but if ethics is universal...

Ethically is there a "point"? Economically can the world switch? In terms of health. should it?

No to the second, and eating meat is a necessary evil for a couple of decades.
No to the last and it's necessary for perhaps a few generations (or at least significant advances in medical technology).​


As for about 2 minutes in, your placing emphasis on the importance it's scientific and peer-reviewed shows your opinion. You'll ignore and accept science where it suits you, and for INTJs it's often the best way to answer the questions about a topic. Your opinion is that the science is valid, ethically correct, blah blah blah...

The problem with hanging out with N's is you start imaging things exist and 'opinion' to be something worth over 16 minutes of discussion.
Exercise that Se, man.
 
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#19,837 ·
This idea that if you're not taking initiative and not being super outgoing then you are not being yourself.. *shakes fist* bah.
 
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#19,839 ·
working on the ongoing project of tolerating/reassuring my landlord. it seems like he responds well and his social anxieties kind of recede if i step into his own emotional turf and say things about, i dunno, how x or y feels. he feels reassured or something. it short-circuits his endless loops of wavery reiteration of the same things, and bumps him into a different mode if i offer him some overture of that kind, like a life-belt to a drowning man.

gah. not natural to me at all, and i still feel like itching my skin off and hiding after any incidents involving with him. but i'm trying to make this thing tolerable. it's exhausting to go out all emo at him, but the facts of the matter are that he's exhausting to me anyway.
 
#19,840 ·
This idea that if you're not taking initiative and not being super outgoing then you are not being yourself.. *shakes fist* bah.
I'd say it's your carnal self and not your conscious self.

Surely "be yourself" is encouragement of experiencing Se, the reason it's said so much to INTJs is because Ni runs counter and involves layers of second-guessing. The reason it's hated by INTJs so much is because we tend to operate better through Ni.

Though people who say such things don't tend to understand the difference... :/
 
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