This is a discussion on Selfless Acts within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by Humoriarty Selfish is usually other peoples opinion, I've found. Then define "Selfish" and clarify....
Here is an article on Enlightened self interest.
This is like pissing in the sea and asking if anyone smells ammonia!
Define grow out of?
It implies grow "into" so into what? Someone ELSE'S predetermined idealistic notion of how to survive this existence?
How to survive? So that's "make sure you preserve the self"? Isn't it??
So really it's " here are rules to allow you to perpetuate your interest in self" - self interest.
2. "Grow out of": Most people who do not have severe cognitive disorders reach a point where they don't cry whenever they have to go to the bathroom or want something to eat....or throw themselves on the ground screaming when denied something they want.
I think, that we all compete for existence, and in the world of ideas too. The extraverted functions and their bearers follow the philosophy of propagation, radiation and the introverted people devour prey and protect themselves from predators. 'Selfish' seems to be a fitting descriptive when you resist to open up for them. I may have called such people selfish too, but it's not in my nature and it would be difficult for them to understand my perspective.
As for your second comment, I'm inclined to say something cutting, but instead will ask... What happens after basic self control?
Self control would assume knowledge of self. And with that WHAT the self wants, needs, and how to communicate that, either by vocal communication or by the playing of manipulation "games" ... Ie direct and indirect communication, serving the self interest of the being.
When do you desire the penny to drop?