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This is a discussion on Bedside book pile: hey guys, what are you reading? within the INTJ Forum - The Scientists forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; Originally Posted by orion83uk Any of you ever ready the Isaac Asimov Foundation saga? i read them; or at least ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by orion83uk View Post
    Any of you ever ready the Isaac Asimov Foundation saga?
    i read them; or at least i believe i read the ones you're referring to. i don't recall there being five of them at the time though - i'm pretty old .

    i mostly remember the mule. i think he came in later when i had lost interest in whatever else was supposed to be going on. but the concept he exemplified has stayed with me for most of my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilysocks View Post
    i read them; or at least i believe i read the ones you're referring to. i don't recall there being five of them at the time though - i'm pretty old .

    i mostly remember the mule. i think he came in later when i had lost interest in whatever else was supposed to be going on. but the concept he exemplified has stayed with me for most of my life.
    You know, I would have been shocked if at least one other person on this forum hadn't read these books haha!

    There are 7 books in total believe it or not - the final book written, which oddly is the 2nd book in terms of the time-line, was the final novel written by Asimov I believe (TBC).

    I'm actually onto the very book now where the Mule is introduced (Foundation and Empire). I vaguely remember that the final book has a bit of a disappointing ending.
    Last edited by orion83uk; 07-31-2019 at 02:23 AM.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by orion83uk View Post
    You know, I would have been shocked if at least one other person on this forum hadn't read these books haha!

    There are 7 books in total believe it or not - the final book written, which oddly is the 2nd book in terms of the time-line, was the final novel written by Asimov I believe (TBC).

    I'm actually onto the very book now where the Mule is introduced (Foundation and Empire). I vaguely remember that the final book has a bit of a disappointing ending.
    I've read them all, plus a lot of the Robot books. Asimov has a reputation for shallow characters, but the Mule was an amazing creation, and I have thought about him for years. That's saying a lot, because I read so many books, I forget most of them unless reminded.

    Asimov took a long break after the original trilogy, written in the 1950s, then added four more, written in the 1980s and 1990s. It's a little disconcerting when you read them, because Asimov's style changed over the years, and some are a lot better than others. I agree, I wasn't thrilled with the final book.

    I just finished Ann Leckie's fantasy Raven Tower, which I raced through. She's a great author. Very interested in pronouns - this one is narrated in 2nd person, very unusual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Girl View Post
    I've read them all, plus a lot of the Robot books. Asimov has a reputation for shallow characters, but the Mule was an amazing creation, and I have thought about him for years. That's saying a lot, because I read so many books, I forget most of them unless reminded.

    Asimov took a long break after the original trilogy, written in the 1950s, then added four more, written in the 1980s and 1990s. It's a little disconcerting when you read them, because Asimov's style changed over the years, and some are a lot better than others. I agree, I wasn't thrilled with the final book.

    I just finished Ann Leckie's fantasy Raven Tower, which I raced through. She's a great author. Very interested in pronouns - this one is narrated in 2nd person, very unusual.
    Agreed, the 2 sequels and 2 prequels written in the 80s and 90s do, as you say, have a very different style. Coupled with the fact they are both one long story of the same person - the prequels both being about Hari Seldon and the sequels being about Golan Trevize - rather than 'short stories' of different characters across different time periods.

    I've not read the Robot book's but hoping to get to them after re-reading the Foundation series.

    I just looked up Raven Tower:

    "...Eolo discovers that the Raven's Tower holds a secret. Its foundations conceal a dark history that has been waiting to reveal itself...and to set in motion a chain of events that could destroy Iraden forever."

    I now want to read this!
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    It's funny we're talking about Asimov. I was just about to say I finished I, Robot (a re-read). I also read What every BODY is saying, a decent book about reading body language (3/5).

    Now, I'm doing a quick re-read of The Knife of Never Letting Go and following it up with Foundation as I'd like to read this Asimov work that I actually have never tackled before.
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    just finished west of sunset, by stewart o'nan. it's a novelized account of f. scott fitzgerald's last years, when he was 'washed up' but trying to keep his wife's asylum fees paid by script writing for hollywood. highly recommend. i've always liked fitzgerald, although it's been decades since i first read all his books.

    the back-cover blurb says 'it doesn't matter if he was a friend of [whoever]'s for real or not; he is now'. i mention that just because having read this, i disagree. the book is so well done, and so sympathetic and perceptive, that now i feel like i do 'need' to know if [whoever] had been a real friend of his. with a less perceptive and tender writer, the inventions might have been obvious. with this one, everything flows and i'd rather know what was true about him than perpetuate a fiction just because it's told well enough to seem plausible.

    i especially like this author for showing fitzgerald as taking writing itself seriously. and i like his attention to zelda and the dynamic between them as well. he's understated but meticulous. there's nothing meretricious about his treatment, which i really appreciate given how lurid and facile a book about the fitzgeralds could be.

    now onto my second book of the weekend, another unreliable-narrator book called the pocket wife by susan crawford. it's a whodunnit, of course. can't help noticing that bridget jones triggered a waterfall of knockoff novels that were mostly extremely awful. whereas with gone girl, in my personal opinion the copycats have actually been a steady process of improving on what was (in gone girl and if you ask me) nothing more than a sketchy hanging of flesh on the scaffolding of a clever idea.

    so far i'm liking this one. i like the main character, basically. she's bipolar, and what i like about this book so far is that it actually feels like a book with a bipolar protagonist. instead of 'oh, she's bipolar' just being a glib gimmick to compromise her credibility and get the reader guessing wrt the plot.

    books cost a buck fifty each at a local loonie store . i'm having a very good weekend so far.

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    d'oh. now that i'm a few weeks clear of shark, i finally know what it's been reminding me of. tree of smoke, by denis johnson. i KNEW there was something. it's hard to define what it is exactly, but i'm pretty sure it's both the content and style.

    they're both war-based (wwii and vietnam, respectively). both rather horribly graphic, but very gauzy on actual details so you get left with these impressionist smears of distressingness, like bloody thumbprints on glass. and they're both constructed in this way that's probably intentionally designed to be just-give-up grade of confusing on characters, timelines, material plot and what's actually going on where and with who at any particular time. you're very helpless as the reader. i think that's part of the intended experience, and i'm fine with that.

    glad to have got that puzzle figured at last. currently just bought one veryserious book - more iris murdoch - one have-no-pride true crime thing from ann rule - and something i can't classify yet because i have no idea what it is. i picked it up for the author whose name might be julian barnes.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I mentioned to a friend that I was in the mood for a weird book, and was handed Samuel Delany's The Einstein Intersection. It is the second weirdest book that I have every read. Number one is The Circus of Dr Lao. Both are great in their strangeness and defy description.
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    i'm on arthur and george by julian barnes. think i spoiled it for myself by . . . spoilering myself. i'd rather not have known what it's about. but i'm not going to punish barnes for my own lack of discipline.


     
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