o, I've never seen this.
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o, I've never seen this.
I know this is an old article, but this right here is one of the main reasons why I question my type so much. In fact I question my major choice (Computer Science) at times because I'm more prone to create art than computer programs, even if I have an aptitude for it. This also pins on the head exactly the type of poetry I used to write when I was in high school (about 8 years ago).
The lyrics in "I Wait" by Daylight Dies speaks to me, yet I have come to dislike the harsh nature of the vocals presented. Also, the Aliens series is one of my favorites exactly because of the whole struggle of "monsters" to connect with humanity. A lot of my favorite characters and stories have elements of this.
Alone, which is an experiment in formatting and can be read in multiple "layers". Each subordinate verse connects in a hierarchical manner. The content, however, puts a focus on "feeling like a monster" and in closing off. Being unable to reach out to people for fear of hurting them. Also a hint of the disconnect I feel between myself and the ever-changing world - emphasizing the feeling of monotony that follows.
Beast of Darkness - I'm not completely satisfied with this one, but it's much more melodic and rhythmic in nature, but also much more disturbing. Fighting how "monstrous" and "unclean" I feel and how no matter how much I fight it, I cannot change it.
I rarely ever write poetry anymore, but I do roleplay a lot - my most successful being a character that struggles intensely with becoming a monster and reconnecting with people after a drastic change.
5w4 here. There seem to be some noticeable differences between 5w4's and 5w6's that I have observed.
-5w6's seem to be better at breaking things down and problem solving, whereas 5w4s are better at resolving interpersonal conflicts due to being able to see both sides.
-5w4's seem to want to express themselves creatively while 5w6s like expressing what they have learned and having a chance to show off their accumulated knowledge
-5w4's like revising and refining their observations of people, and predicting how they would act in certain situations. 5w6s are more likely to do so when testing hypotheses or figuring out why something doesn't make sense.
-5w6's thrive in being deconstructionists and realists.
-5w4's are good at being chameleons and will somewhat value letting someone down gently. 5w6's may either give less of a fuck or not even realize they come across as cold.
-5w4's may have more difficulty finding a niche and sticking with a career if their creativity is stifled. 5w6's may have trouble holding jobs that stifle their intellectual freedom or have rigid rules.
Fantastic thread. Thank you. I identify with this and am happy to comment on this old thread. This reminds me a lot of my poetry and drawing. I haven't written much in a long time, but have started journaling recently. The journaling has reawakened my need to draw. I am so out of practice, but it is such a great outlet. I'm an INTP 5w4. Thank you, again. New rabbit hole to fall down.
i do focus on resolving interpersonal conflicts:
1) as mediator between two sides - i'm impartial, sympathetic, allways bring the sides to a common agreement or understanding
2) reasons of the conflict between humans is one of my favourite topics
3) often i'm "used" to judge people
"don't bleed front of sharks " ( common expression) , well i "bleed" on purpose to actualy find those "sharks"
"The Devil's Advocate" much rarer, but happens
4) ppl who don't even know me come to me with what i call "Unconscious desire of strength"
a) i find their weakness and work on it ( it is a great pleasure making something a litle more "perfect")
b) i feed their self-esteem by "trial by fire"
or by psychological support
"To pull out the best or the worst of the person"