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This is a discussion on Books on thinking within the INTP Articles forums, part of the INTP Forum - The Thinkers category; Originally Posted by 95134hks Jeeze. I did not say starting from scratch deludes ourselves. So you cannot agree with something ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95134hks View Post
    Jeeze.

    I did not say starting from scratch deludes ourselves.

    So you cannot agree with something that was not said.

    Do you want to go to the ignore list?
    I did not say you said starting from scratch has a propensity to delude anyone, just in the fact that it is a delusion.

    I feel like to be honest that you have only been half-reading what I wrote, and you have the choice to filter and read what you want to. Or maybe you have reached your capacity for thought.

    Ignore me if you want, but it is in my opinion your loss and not mine. You have yet a lot to learn, and according to you, you are already 2/3. Ah, anyways, not everyone can go beyond what they think they have reached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by platorepublic View Post
    I like Descartes. And I do agree that we can try to delude ourselves to start from scratch and examine everything. But as Kant pointed out, we simply cannot start from scratch because we have space and time built-in our thinking. Yes?

    There is no method for us to start from scratch. We are somehow, as human beings, biased.

    I can understand your standpoint, and I sympathsise with your standpoint and I like Descartes not so much for his philosophy but his story-telling. I love stories and he told a good and compelling story that was almost okay.

    For me, it is to start with the realisation we cannot start from scratch, and start from there.
    Quote Originally Posted by 95134hks View Post
    Jeeze.

    I did not say starting from scratch deludes ourselves.

    So you cannot agree with something that was not said.

    Do you want to go to the ignore list?
    Quote Originally Posted by platorepublic View Post
    I did not say you said starting from scratch has a propensity to delude anyone, just in the fact that it is a delusion.

    I feel like to be honest that you have only been half-reading what I wrote, and you have the choice to filter and read what you want to. Or maybe you have reached your capacity for thought.

    Ignore me if you want, but it is in my opinion your loss and not mine. You have yet a lot to learn, and according to you, you are already 2/3. Ah, anyways, not everyone can go beyond what they think they have reached.
    Point of fact (definitional): you cannot agree with something if it has not already been stated.

    And nothing was stated to the effect that "And I do agree that we can try to delude ourselves to start from scratch and examine everything."

    You can only assert that to begin with. If that's what you think and believe then fine.

    From your posts it sounds like you believe is relativism. This is how Protagoras of ancient Athens justified his own life of sophistry according to Plato.

    Relativists are largely sophists practicing sophistry. That's my statement, assertion, and observation.

    I'm still surprised you are looking at how-to manuals for thinking having obviously dabbled in philosophy a little.

    But maybe the how-to manuals will help you get over sophistry and relativism.

    Good luck.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I downloaded this some while back because someone said it could help me understand the Alice in Wonderland syndrome... The Psychology of Invention in the Mathematical Field Haven't read it yet.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Teach Yourself to Think by Edward de Bono

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    ISFP


    I think people would appreciate this sci-fi by Larry Niven. Ringworld.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Those how-to manuals, as @95134hks rightfully called them, will tell you about thinking, but they are not likely to force you to actually think like philosophical text will. If that is all you want, then that is fine, but I suspect most INTPs prefer a bit more substance since we are already fine-tuned for thinking logically. To think is to think for yourself, and philosophy truly is, unarguably, the best genre for that. There is also some good fiction that forces you into the activity of thinking as well that you might prefer, as you claimed that you like "Decartes' stories". Maybe you would like books about intellectual history - the history of thinking. Perhaps you want something more up-to-date, that you might perceive to be relevant today or geared toward your interests. There are philosophy books for that. I don't know you, though. What are your interests? What do you do? Who are you? Give us some information, and we might be able to help you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OverthoughtAndUnderstated View Post
    Those how-to manuals, as @95134hks rightfully called them, will tell you about thinking, but they are not likely to force you to actually think like philosophical text will. If that is all you want, then that is fine, but I suspect most INTPs prefer a bit more substance since we are already fine-tuned for thinking logically. To think is to think for yourself, and philosophy truly is, unarguably, the best genre for that. There is also some good fiction that forces you into the activity of thinking as well that you might prefer, as you claimed that you like "Decartes' stories". Maybe you would like books about intellectual history - the history of thinking. Perhaps you want something more up-to-date, that you might perceive to be relevant today or geared toward your interests. There are philosophy books for that. I don't know you, though. What are your interests? What do you do? Who are you? Give us some information, and we might be able to help you.
    The best 'history of thinking' that I have found is Bertrand Russell's "History Of Western Philosophy", Simon & Schuster (1945). It is a classic. As with all such survey books, he begins with Thales of Miletus (on the Turkish coast -- what we now call Turkey -- in 600 BCE). I got my copy off the shelves at Barnes & Noble Booksellers Inc. You can also find it at Amazon.com.

    http://www.amazon.com/History-Wester.../dp/0671201581
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