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This is a discussion on dealing with betrayal by ENTJ business partner? within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I have ENTJ in my team on a project (my idea, my team, developed under my leadership). However it seems ...

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    INTP

    dealing with betrayal by ENTJ business partner?

    I have ENTJ in my team on a project (my idea, my team, developed under my leadership). However it seems that whenever he gets the chance almost/totally neglectaes mentioning anyone associated with the project and takes credit for himself. I just found out about this from an interview. I feel pretty betrayed by this behaviour.

    How would you respond in such situation? Have you encountered similar behaviour from ENTJ?



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    No, but I have seen House of Cards. Kick him off the team before it's too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by temurt View Post
    I have ENTJ in my team on a project (my idea, my team, developed under my leadership). However it seems that whenever he gets the chance almost/totally neglectaes mentioning anyone associated with the project and takes credit for himself. I just found out about this from an interview. I feel pretty betrayed by this behaviour.

    How would you respond in such situation? Have you encountered similar behaviour from ENTJ?
    Oh yeah, all the time, every single ENTJ I've done anything with likes to hog the spotlight.

    ...just kidding. I don't think that sort of behaviour has much to do with typing, it seems to be more a symptom of having more ambition than integrity. Also I don't know any ENTJ.

    How would I respond? I would assess how vital this person is to the venture.

    Indispensable? Confront him politely to make him aware of his behaviour if he isn't already. First privately, then publicly if the behaviour still persists.
    Dispensable? Take care of the ends he would leave loose and dispense away! The sooner the better.

    Results would depend on whether your assessment of the situation is factual. If it is, your venture should thrive, if not, well... your fault for heeding advice from strangers on the internet.
    Last edited by Necrofantasia; 03-05-2017 at 12:05 AM.
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    I wouldn't respond at all. What are you trying to accomplish? People like that think too highly of themself to ever reform so confronting him about it would be futile. Don't listen to the person who told you to kick him off the team, that's the worst advice I've ever heard lol.. If he wants to take all the credit then steadily pUT more and more responsibilities on him. That'll humble him real quick because he won't know how to handle it and he'll start asking for help.

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    If he really is ENTJ, he should feel bad.
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    Sounds like he's a parasite. If you can get rid by getting everyone to agree with you then do it.

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    I agree with the :

    "Indispensable? Confront him politely to make him aware of his behavior if he isn't already."

    I'd add :
    - Try to understand his real motivations and look at him as an human being with emotions. (Oooh, F side.) Make it full part of the discussion if needed.
    - Make him understand that : He has to look at you as an human being with drives and emotions. (Oooh, F side.)
    - This will also make clear that : if one of you snaps and make hurtful decisions, well... that's what humans do in order to not get hurt in return. "Sorry bout that."
    - This should build a solid ground to have a real, constructive discussion. (Blend F & T discussions well.)
    If neither of you take care of the feeling side in this topic, I can only predict bad consequences in the short and long term. It's not only a professional issue, it's a : relationship issue, emotional issue and an (ego-related) issue.
    - On a more positive note, if the discussion goes well, you'll get a chance to be : super great friends/partners. I noticed that NT types felt closer when : working together, and fighting each other (in a mature way). ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by temurt View Post
    I have ENTJ in my team on a project (my idea, my team, developed under my leadership). However, it seems that whenever he gets the chance almost/totally neglected mentioning anyone associated with the project and takes credit for himself. I just found out about this from an interview. I feel pretty betrayed by this behaviour.

    How would you respond in such situation? Have you encountered similar behaviour from ENTJ?
    There is no point in having a dishonest person on your team.
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    Personally, I would just ignore him if he's doing his part. He's irritating no doubt, I've worked with those kinds of people before, but in my expirence is that the managers know they're insufferable too. They should put him in sales imo. Those types of people seem to thrive in sales.

    Quote Originally Posted by HGy View Post
    If he wants to take all the credit then steadily pUT more and more responsibilities on him. That'll humble him real quick because he won't know how to handle it and he'll start asking for help.
    The problem with this is, no doubt, if it fails he will shift the blame onto the rest of the team. If he isn't capable of taking on the bulk of the project the project would potentially cumble or be completed past the deadline. If he is capable of handling the work load he will take all the credit, be insufferable about it, and worst of all- he will have earned the gloating. Liars are liars, and ambition > integrity people don't admit weakness to their superiors. It doesn't matter if he asks his peers for help, because he won't tell his superiors he needed help at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by temurt View Post
    I have ENTJ in my team on a project (my idea, my team, developed under my leadership). However it seems that whenever he gets the chance almost/totally neglectaes mentioning anyone associated with the project and takes credit for himself. I just found out about this from an interview. I feel pretty betrayed by this behaviour.

    How would you respond in such situation? Have you encountered similar behaviour from ENTJ?
    Sounds like shitty behavior regardless of type.
    Your first course of action should probably be to take it up with the guy himself.

    This is a pretty vague description, but if you do need to keep him around, there are a few things I'd consider:
    Does it matter that he takes the credit? Is it keeping you from possible advancement, or can you just let it be?
    Is he generally dishonest? Can you catch him in the act and call his character into question?
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