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This is a discussion on Are INTPs good liars? within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; 1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong? Yes 2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie? ...

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    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?
    Yes

    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?
    What it boils down to is just what you're willing to justify to yourself.

    3. Are you a good liar?
    Unfortunately, yes. I used to lie to people so that I wouldn't have to talk to them about things I didn't want to talk to them about. It was like a defense mechanism or something; I'd make up whatever on the spot that I thought would end the conversation the quickest. Then I realized that nothing is faster at driving people far away than the truth.

    4. What do people usually catch you on?
    The problem with making stuff up spur of the moment like that is that you have to keep track of it or else someone who remembers what you said brings it up later. Dedicating the brain power to keeping track of that crap is too inefficient if nothing else.

    5. What do you think makes a good lie?
    Lies that are effective have a grain of truth to them. There's just enough there so that the rest of it seems plausible.

    6. Do you feel bad for lying?
    At the time, no, I didn't, but I came to regret it. I've been forgiven for it, so I try not to dwell on it too much.

    7. Any other thoughts?
    Sometimes people say things based on a limited knowledge of facts, and they believe what they're saying to be true at the time they are saying it. That doesn't count as lying, so sometimes even the most jaded of us need to be open to the possibility of an alternate explanation when confronting someone with what you believe to be a lie.
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  2. #12

    "Good liar"... isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? If you're a liar, then you're not "good".

    I generally hate lies because they always create more problems than they solve, in any circumstance. Maybe a lie seems like a "good" idea at first to possibly get you out of trouble, but it only keeps you out of trouble "for now" and has circumstances that are way worse in the long run than if you started off with telling the truth instead. Lies always make situations worse for everybody, needlessly dragging problems out for longer than they need to be. Even if the truth may hurt at first, the truth is what will be appreciated in the long run so might as well get the pain over with at the beginning. It has happened too many times to me where someone DOES NOT TELL ME THE TRUTH at the beginning and all we end up with is months of pointless issues that would have been solved if the truth was explained much earlier on...

    Lies waste everyone's time and pisses people off. Lying because the truth "might hurt" is a terrible reason to lie. Just get the pain over with now so we can be done with it instead of letting it linger, jeez.

  3. #13

    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?
    I just don't tend to usually think its not necessary.

    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?
    I guess I tend to think in cases where it spares peoples feelings, i.e. like "does this make me look fat?" I am not going to say, yes.

    3. Are you a good liar?
    Nope I am very bad at it.

    4. What do people usually catch you on?
    Well I don't think its that people catch me on something I just am not good at lying I tend to avoid lying.

    5. What do you think makes a good lie?
    I guess one that is convincing means it worked.

    6. Do you feel bad for lying?
    I guess its just not generally my style except like I said in the exception above.

    7. Any other thoughts?
    No to each their own.
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  4. #14
    INTP - The Thinkers

    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?
    Yes
    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?
    If you tell them to stop asking questions on this topic because from now on you will be lying to shut them up.
    If you made a promise under coercion. Someone is going to hurt someone else.
    3. Are you a good liar?
    No, not that I do it. I have enough difficulty acting normal around people to bother trying to maintain a lie.
    4. What do people usually catch you on?
    they usually catch me being honest.
    5. What do you think makes a good lie?
    I dont believe lies are good. If you meant believable, then I agree with Himistu.
    6. Do you feel bad for lying?
    Yes.
    7. Any other thoughts?
    There is no need for lies in normal life. Change topic, or add to these with information you can provide.
    To stop someone from taking from you:
    I will not answer you. I don't feel that is any of your business. You have not shown me that I can trust you with that information.
    To get someone to do what you want:
    I am asking you to trust me. You will just have to wait and see. Don't worry about a thing, I have everything planned out.
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  5. #15
    INFJ - The Protectors

    I'm keeping this simple, because I'm tired, drained, and annoyed...

    Had to deal with a liar last night, and it's one thing I can't and won't tolerate. Lie to me, and you are dead to me.

    I'm a terrible liar and I'm thankful for that.
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  6. #16
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    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?

    For the most part.

    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?

    There is no general situation in which lying is okay. Situations are valued independently.

    3. Are you a good liar?

    Yes. I was almost pathological liar when I was younger. When I was a kid my mom's yelling at me for something I consider pointless has taught me to lie quite good about anything.

    4. What do people usually catch you on?

    Something completely unpredictable usually.

    5. What do you think makes a good lie?

    Consistency.

    6. Do you feel bad for lying?

    Not really. If I lie I have a pretty good reason for it.

    7. Any other thoughts?

    Despite lying a lot through my life (till I graduated high school) I am against lying. And it's funny when you always stay truthful. People are often confused by it xD
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  7. #17
    INTP - The Thinkers

    By admitting you're a good liar, you become a worse liar. So I'm going to refrain from answering.
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  8. #18
    INTP - The Thinkers

    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?
    I think morals are essentially subjective. However, I dislike lying for two reasons: the truth is always 100 times more fun, and I always want to know the truth. Karma, if you will.

    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?
    I think there are very few instances, but let me try to think of one.... Ok, say you live in a third world country that is run by religious zealots(Iran or Saudi Arabia for example). You are a logically minded person, so you are naturally an athiest or agnostic. The religious leaders of your country torture and kill people who do not agree with their bigoted beliefs. So it is best for you to lie and say that you also believe their religion.

    3. Are you a good liar?
    I used to be, but I've fallen out of practice in the last few years.

    4. What do people usually catch you on?
    I don't lie anymore, or at least I try not to. I'm a terrible poker player though.

    5. What do you think makes a good lie?
    People often make the mistake of just spouting off lies without taking the time to think through the story behind their lie. If people catch that something's off with what you said, most of the time they'll question you on it. If you stand there with a blank look on your face going, "Uhh... ummmm... well... uhh... what?" It's going to be pretty obvious that you're not telling the truth.

    6. Do you feel bad for lying?
    Now I do, but I used to lie so often that it just became second nature.

    7. Any other thoughts?
    Hurting people's feelings with the truth is so much more fun than lying. And yes, I am a terrible person.
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  9. #19
    INTP - The Thinkers

    3) Yes.

  10. #20
    INTP - The Thinkers

    1. Do you think that lying is immoral/wrong?
    not really

    2. In what situations would it be considered "okay" to lie?
    when you dont nead to keep track of your lie

    3. Are you a good liar?
    yes

    4. What do people usually catch you on?
    laugthing

    5. What do you think makes a good lie?
    if it's possible

    6. Do you feel bad for lying?
    nope
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