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This is a discussion on The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTPs within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I'm getting a starting bonus to help pay with expenses but it's only coming in the 2nd week with my ...

  1. #8651

    I'm getting a starting bonus to help pay with expenses but it's only coming in the 2nd week with my paycheck and I still need to get an apartment and car. I'll have to ask my mom I guess to help me until the 2nd week. :/

  2. #8652

    My mind is refusing to function properly - you don't need all the data, you just need a pass.

    Fucking hell

  3. #8653

    Facebook put an article from CNBC on my feed. It said, this lady has $11,000 in student and is living comfortably making $50,000 in NY. How? Side hustle. I read it and it says, she earns $500 a year doing photography as a side job and that helps her support herself. What? I think they might have meant $5,000. But even then, that's a pretty low number. Someone mentioned that she lived off of her spouses healthcare or something. I guess it is doable to have a side hustle of $500 and a regular job if your partner does everything else for you. Plus, $11,000 in student debt is like the cost of one semester of college, so it is nothing. They say it is propaganda piece to make poor people feel like they can live comfortably.

  4. #8654
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmaster Yoda View Post
    Facebook put an article from CNBC on my feed. It said, this lady has $11,000 in student and is living comfortably making $50,000 in NY. How? Side hustle. I read it and it says, she earns $500 a year doing photography as a side job and that helps her support herself. What? I think they might have meant $5,000. But even then, that's a pretty low number. Someone mentioned that she lived off of her spouses healthcare or something. I guess it is doable to have a side hustle of $500 and a regular job if your partner does everything else for you. Plus, $11,000 in student debt is like the cost of one semester of college, so it is nothing. They say it is propaganda piece to make poor people feel like they can live comfortably.
    I saw a similar article about a couple who retired at 35 after hard work, saving money and clever long term planning. It was as easy as "buy a house with your parents' money then sell it and keep the money for yourself!"

    I wouldn't call it propaganda though. Most of my suspicions about media companies wanting to control the masses have been replaced by a sad acceptance of the fact that the bottom line really is just about money. Choose your audience and write whatever will draw their attention.

    EDIT: Actually no I do believe and agree that the media has huge, HUGE power to control populations.I just think some of the more outstretched theories are hard to believe. The ones about global power cabals and the likes. In the end it's nothing more than politicians meeting with news companies and talking about ways to make their lives mutually profitable. Your above suggestion about the news $11,000 debt story being propaganda doesn't rest with me; I think that story was more a case of simple clickbait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    I saw a similar article about a couple who retired at 35 after hard work, saving money and clever long term planning. It was as easy as "buy a house with your parents' money then sell it and keep the money for yourself!"

    I wouldn't call it propaganda though. Most of my suspicions about media companies wanting to control the masses have been replaced by a sad acceptance of the fact that the bottom line really is just about money. Choose your audience and write whatever will draw their attention.

    EDIT: Actually no I do believe and agree that the media has huge, HUGE power to control populations.I just think some of the more outstretched theories are hard to believe. The ones about global power cabals and the likes. In the end it's nothing more than politicians meeting with news companies and talking about ways to make their lives mutually profitable. Your above suggestion about the news $11,000 debt story being propaganda doesn't rest with me; I think that story was more a case of simple clickbait.
    Facebook people call it propaganda. I don't actually follow any of these, except Forbes I think. It is entertaining to read the comments where random people just trash the article. Facebook isn't an "anonymous" platform where you make a fake name too often, yet people still don't have that much of a filter.
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  6. #8656
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    To add to my growing pile of steaming hate:

    I HATE Chinese internet censorship.

    And no, it's not because of the whole 'free press' thing. It's because it creeps into fucking everything and slows down everything I want to do.

    Okay, some stuff is fully blocked and I can understand that. Social media and news coverage are the big ones.

    But these censorship tentacles seem to be fucking everywhere. I have several websites hosted on a server in the Netherlands, and at certain times of day it's almost impossible to connect to them from here unless I switch on a VPN so I have an open connection outside of the country.

    I'm pretty sure the government doesn't even have the servers blacklisted. It's just at certain times of day the CCP's censorship algorithms must flag them up and throttle the connection, for no reason other than, "foreign internet website". My guess is someone on the same server is hosting porn or something. I dunno. Other servers are fine (e.g. Personality Cafe connects okay these days).

    Either way, the whole thing is just so, fucking, annoying.
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  7. #8657

    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    To add to my growing pile of steaming hate:

    I HATE Chinese internet censorship.

    And no, it's not because of the whole 'free press' thing. It's because it creeps into fucking everything and slows down everything I want to do.

    Okay, some stuff is fully blocked and I can understand that. Social media and news coverage are the big ones.

    But these censorship tentacles seem to be fucking everywhere. I have several websites hosted on a server in the Netherlands, and at certain times of day it's almost impossible to connect to them from here unless I switch on a VPN so I have an open connection outside of the country.

    I'm pretty sure the government doesn't even have the servers blacklisted. It's just at certain times of day the CCP's censorship algorithms must flag them up and throttle the connection, for no reason other than, "foreign internet website". My guess is someone on the same server is hosting porn or something. I dunno. Other servers are fine (e.g. Personality Cafe connects okay these days).

    Either way, the whole thing is just so, fucking, annoying.
    June 4, 1989 Tiananmen square.

  8. #8658
    INTP

    Quote Originally Posted by Necrofantasia View Post
    June 4, 1989 Tiananmen square.
    Never heard of it. Internet searches tell here me nothing about it.

    :D

    Seriously the censorship here spreads pretty far. Like I said, I can kind of understand the political/news aspects. Every country has censorship in varying regards (e.g. the recent Tommy Robinson cases in the UK - he was trying to 'expose' cases of child prostitution rings because he thought the BBC were deliberately keeping the story quiet, but actually the British legal system has always put media injunctions on cases like that), but with China it's just absurd.

    For example, the entire country of Panama doesn't exist on Chinese internet, presumably because it's a tax haven and will be used extensively by any wealthy Chinese who hear of it.


    Was your addition of the Tiananmen thing an attempt to get CCP's internet algorithms to block this forum? Heh, I'd laugh if it worked.

    A British guy I studied with at Sichuan University said he used to spend a lot of time reading the Guardian News website at home. He spent a lot of time reading articles about China, simply because he was in China. At some point, he found that the website was inaccessible from his home wifi connection, while it worked if he connected anywhere else. Spooky.

    That was a good 4 years ago though. It's worse now. No major foreign news agency is accessible here now. Guardian, BBC, Al Jazeera, Reuters, Associate Press... you name it, it's blocked. (It's still accessible via VPN, but still.... pain in the arse).

    A lot of foreigners are feeling it here at the moment. The country has closed itself off a little bit and nationalism is on the rise. Most put it down to the economy slowing down. The Chinese population will only stay happy if they have money or they have blind patriotism. Currently the latter option is being pushed harder than the former.

    Oh and going back to Tiananmen - My girlfriend talked about it a few weeks ago. She said that among her friends, the main idea they have is that there was a protest, everyone was massacred, the streets were covered in blood and the government quickly mopped it all up. So people are aware of it. But it's just via gossip really. I showed her the Tank Man video on youtube. She had never it before.

    What annoys me is how people aren't allowed to have an open discussion and learn from these things. An example that springs to mind is the Bogside massacre that happened in Northern Ireland a few decades ago. The British Army killed several civilians during a peaceful protest in Northern Ireland. There's a film about it - Bloody Sunday - which lays the issue bare so the people of the UK (and the world!) can see it and discuss/learn from the issue. That's how progress works. But oh ho, not in China! Just keep the masses quiet and dumb!

    Needless to say, Bloody Sunday is not accessible in China either, and searching 'Bogside Massacre' on Bing brings up zero results. Because it depicts a government acting badly. The horror!
    Last edited by HAL; 08-27-2019 at 07:14 PM.
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  9. #8659

    Quote Originally Posted by HAL View Post
    Never heard of it. Internet searches tell here me nothing about it.

    :D

    Seriously the censorship here spreads pretty far. Like I said, I can kind of understand the political/news aspects. Every country has censorship in varying regards (e.g. the recent Tommy Robinson cases in the UK - he was trying to 'expose' cases of child prostitution rings because he thought the BBC were deliberately keeping the story quiet, but actually the British legal system has always put media injunctions on cases like that), but with China it's just absurd.

    For example, the entire country of Panama doesn't exist on Chinese internet, presumably because it's a tax haven and will be used extensively by any wealthy Chinese who hear of it.


    Was your addition of the Tiananmen thing an attempt to get CCP's internet algorithms to block this forum? Heh, I'd laugh if it worked.

    A British guy I studied with at Sichuan University said he used to spend a lot of time reading the Guardian News website at home. He spent a lot of time reading articles about China, simply because he was in China. At some point, he found that the website was inaccessible from his home wifi connection, while it worked if he connected anywhere else. Spooky.

    That was a good 4 years ago though. It's worse now. No major foreign news agency is accessible here now. Guardian, BBC, Al Jazeera, Reuters, Associate Press... you name it, it's blocked. (It's still accessible via VPN, but still.... pain in the arse).

    A lot of foreigners are feeling it here at the moment. The country has closed itself off a little bit and nationalism is on the rise. Most put it down to the economy slowing down. The Chinese population will only stay happy if they have money or they have blind patriotism. Currently the latter option is being pushed harder than the former.
    I'd heard it was a nifty way to get Chinese online players to mysteriously DC and was wondering if it would work on you.

    I figured you'd either sympathize with my curiosity or grill me for being a cunt, and found both possibilities hilarious.
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  10. #8660

    moving into an apartment is more difficult than I thought, and the new job is worrying.


     

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