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This is a discussion on The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTPs within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I thought that we could use a thread like this. I know there is a "confessions" thread, but that's not ...

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    The (stream of conscious?) venting thread for INTPs

    I thought that we could use a thread like this. I know there is a "confessions" thread, but that's not quite the same, and we haven't had a proper "INTP Madness" thread (which is my reading of "stream of consciousness") since the crush thread and it's ill-begotten clones were banished to the Land of Winds and Ghosts (also known as Spam World).

    So (copying from the original):

    Take issue with something going on in society?

    Having a bad day?

    Have something on your mind that wont go away?

    Experience something so fabulous you just have to express it?

    Accidentally sold your mother to a pimp in a back alley game of poker?

    Have an idea, or discover something so amazing you must tell everyone?

    Post your vent (or experience, idea, etc.) here!

    Note(s):
    This thread is not for venting about other members, the moderators, or the forum.
    Don't over-spam the thread (I can't expect INTPs not to spam a least a little) lest it be sent screaming into the spam-abyss.
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    INTP - The Thinkers


    Hello sir,

    I will support your effort as I deem it an altruistic cause. I was also doing some attention seeking trolling myself, trying to decide if there were a thread missing that our forum direly needed. Alas I saw your post with zero replies and thought I'd help a brother out. Oh, doesn't it suck when you make a new topic and nobody responds for over a day? I know that INTP and high IQ doesn't go hand-in-hand (hmm or maybe only the smart ones realize that they're INTP and find INTP forums?). It's plausible that INTP's online are over represented in the high IQ department and that the other INTP's are just clueless as to why they feel so outcast.

    I've never taken a legitimate IQ test but I am self guesstimating that mine hovers around the 155 range give or take. I know this might be wishful thinking as well but I'm being realistic about it. 135 range just seems too low as people in this range I deem "above average" yet their logic still "pisses me off" sometimes. I've realized that my emotion of getting "pissed off" is actually meaning "frustrated" because I have to explain to someone else in detail what I already know to be true.

    When someone proposes a conjecture which I have already theorized and dropped as impossible-- it leads me to believe they are only behind in the race to the solution. My mind is fast and can hold many thoughts simultaneously. My sequential memory is not the best, especially because I smoke so much weed, but my ability to pull pertinent information out of past and current events is unbeatable.

    I can instantly make analogies between the most incompatible subjects to elaborate my point and drive it home. The analogies come to me almost in a divine way, as the answer popped into my head. Except, I know the real working mechanism is that my brain can tap itself very easily horizontally, like I have tons of ram, I can process lots of information at once-- but storing that information is another thing.

    Shen an intuitive turns on his/her "sensing" abilities-- it is impossible to store every external event as a memory. Especially when sensing is new for us and it's like a barrage of info coming at once. We can only filter and process and store what's relevant at the given time.

    //end transmission.

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    :D

    If I read one more manga or comic, watch one more anime, TV show, or movie, where one of the very few women on the cast does the "Slap of Sense Into My Love Interest", I'm going to buy a gun, and I am going to shoot every man in the crotch.

    NO MORE. NO MORE OF THIS. FUCK'S SAKE, WOMAN, IS A SLAP ALL YOU'VE GOT?

    It's probably no big deal, but I hate it. Every time I see the Sense Slap, I get a sick feeling in my stomach, and fierce need to break things. Am I supposed to take it as, "Look! These men are insanely powerful, but she made him think just by slapping him omgwtfbbq wimmenz is so powerful derp."
    I realize, women are not as strong as men IRL, and blah blah blah, but if you have a comic where people are flying around, or they're fighting with darkness and light themselves, &c, I think it's safe to bend the rules a bit more.


    Some days, I just want to see a lady punch a whole in the wall and have it be 'No Big D'. I'd like to see her do something epic, and have it be epic because IT IS EPIC, and not because she is a wimmenz in a gaiz wurld. Is that so bad?


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    :3
    I love your signature, Zombie Jesus.

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    INTP - The Thinkers


    Quote Originally Posted by Valiums View Post
    :D

    If I read one more manga or comic, watch one more anime, TV show, or movie, where one of the very few women on the cast does the "Slap of Sense Into My Love Interest", I'm going to buy a gun, and I am going to shoot every man in the crotch.

    NO MORE. NO MORE OF THIS. FUCK'S SAKE, WOMAN, IS A SLAP ALL YOU'VE GOT?

    It's probably no big deal, but I hate it. Every time I see the Sense Slap, I get a sick feeling in my stomach, and fierce need to break things. Am I supposed to take it as, "Look! These men are insanely powerful, but she made him think just by slapping him omgwtfbbq wimmenz is so powerful derp."
    I realize, women are not as strong as men IRL, and blah blah blah, but if you have a comic where people are flying around, or they're fighting with darkness and light themselves, &c, I think it's safe to bend the rules a bit more.


    Some days, I just want to see a lady punch a whole in the wall and have it be 'No Big D'. I'd like to see her do something epic, and have it be epic because IT IS EPIC, and not because she is a wimmenz in a gaiz wurld. Is that so bad?


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    :3
    I love your signature, Zombie Jesus.


    the two girls in deathnote have the ability to kill! wouldn't that be nice
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    Latest idiotic personal theory: There's a correlation in countries between parliamentary governments and the prevalence of squat toilets. Causation remains unproven, but doubted.

    And this thought occurred yesterday (it rained here): What if someone made a candle that smelled like wet dog? Better yet, a whole line of gross smelling candles? You might be asking "Who would buy that?" and "How would you make money at it?".
    My reasoning: a)The concept has novel appeal. b) People are inclined to buy things that possess novel appeal at least once c) Therefore, people would buy my shit-candles at least once. So, if priced appropriately, with low overhead (outsourcing/child labor/both), I could turn a fairly reasonable profit.


    It then occurred to me that I have no idea how candles are made or what causes wet dog smell. I researched both. The entire process would be pretty involved and difficult, which is okay because I have no intention of doing any of this.


    Finally, prolly is not a word. It was never a word. The word that is making a slurred attempt to escape your plaque ridden toothless mouth or being typed with your feces incrusted finger is “probably”. That’s a word. That’s a real word. Use it, for when you say or type “prolly” you sound like a meth addict who lives in West Virginia with ’84 Camarro out back which may or may not be on cinder blocks.
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    @Valiums , I agree. And when women in manga/anime are all powerful and stuff, they are usually inhuman beings that are simply female in form, but really they could look like a fuchsia baboon-head cat and would still be the same.

    And thanks

    @RogueWave , I haven't seen many squat toilets here in Australia... or are you staing it's an inverse correlation?

    When I was at art school, there was a girl who made a series of various gross soaps for her final work. There was an onion one, one with toenails... (it was transparent so you could see the bits). My mum bought the onion one (which was funny since the final year show wasn't an "art sale" sort of exhibition). So there might be a market for gross candles... At least my mum might buy one

    Gah! Prolly! This is one of those "I kill your face!" sorts of things people say, along with "irregardless", or "I could care less" (although this is more grammatical, don't they realize they're saying the opposite of what they mean?!).
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    Unknown Personality

    It's hard trying to contemplate the world as a whole because for one extreme, there's always another extreme in the opposite direction to balance it out, and when you try to take in all the information available in the world trying to run simulations in your head with all the data that you gathered via empathy and intuition, your mind itself ends up being split in two.

    Luckily for me, I managed to combine my fractured psyche somewhere in the middle, and now I feel...neutral.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Some days I'm all like "hmm, I'm going to go check out some of the other subforums on here and see what everyone else is all about" since like, so many other types post in the INTP forum, so it's not like any forum is really that exclusive, right? But then I read some of them and I'm like, "well, I guess that doesn't really apply to me since I'm not XXXX type, so I won't respond" and then I come back here, but I have read all these ones already and lost interest so why can't I just go over there and answer some other questions that interest me, would that be so wrong? But it's like showing up at your neighbors' house uninvited because you heard they're having a party. At least, that's how I'm thinking about it, but that's probably just the introvert overanalyzer talking.

    So anyway, after that I'm thinking, "well, I could just go to the general trends forums, or the enneagram forums" but the enneagram ones always bore me for some reason... I just can't get that big into the numbers, even though I like numbers, mostly. Maybe it's because it's a single number and not a complex number with four digits. I can always think of the MBTI as four numbers, or like binary numbers, which is awesome because they're just on/off switches, which is how I think my emotions work too! On/Off, On/Off, etc. MBTI types as binary...hmm... 1001... 1010....1011...0101... could be cool.

    Anyway, back to trends. Sometimes I read them and they just seem dull, dull like the generation forums, jezuz I can't imagine anything more boring than those, but maybe it's just because I only read the Gen Y one? (Sticking to one category again....)


    ....


    Got bored with writing this, so the rant ends here. Oh yeah, I'm fighting ennui tonight.

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    I found a way to not let my überfeminazism ruin a game; it's the same method I use to enjoy a Harry Potter movie.

    "Remember that this is a MOVIE, not a book. This is not the book as you imagined it but on the big screen. These are SEPERATE entities. There will be differences."

    I applied it while watching some Bayonetta gameplay.

    "Remember that that is VIDEO GAME character. These are not actual women as you see them but on the screen. These are SEPARATE entities. There will be differences."

    The only downside is that suddenly there are very, very few females in games at all.
    But! Look at the way that boobèd thing moves! Double pistols are awesome.



















    << Surprisingly useful.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKick View Post
    I know that INTP and high IQ doesn't go hand-in-hand (hmm or maybe only the smart ones realize that they're INTP and find INTP forums?). It's plausible that INTP's online are over represented in the high IQ department and that the other INTP's are just clueless as to why they feel so outcast.

    I've never taken a legitimate IQ test but I am self guesstimating that mine hovers around the 155 range give or take. I know this might be wishful thinking as well but I'm being realistic about it. 135 range just seems too low as people in this range I deem "above average" yet their logic still "pisses me off" sometimes. I've realized that my emotion of getting "pissed off" is actually meaning "frustrated" because I have to explain to someone else in detail what I already know to be true.
    Remember that the SD of the IQ bell curve is 15 points centered on 100, with 95% occupying 2 deviations in each direction. In other words, an IQ of 135 is still considered Mensa justifiable and within the top 2% of the population. Also remember that some tests have sub-tests, so scoring above average in one section can and will significantly lower the score you get, no matter what your other subtests say.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKick View Post
    When someone proposes a conjecture which I have already theorized and dropped as impossible-- it leads me to believe they are only behind in the race to the solution. My mind is fast and can hold many thoughts simultaneously. My sequential memory is not the best, especially because I smoke so much weed, but my ability to pull pertinent information out of past and current events is unbeatable.

    I can instantly make analogies between the most incompatible subjects to elaborate my point and drive it home. The analogies come to me almost in a divine way, as the answer popped into my head. Except, I know the real working mechanism is that my brain can tap itself very easily horizontally, like I have tons of ram, I can process lots of information at once-- but storing that information is another thing.
    Very true, and worded very appropriately aka followable. When thinking of my thought process, I do indeed see it as a computer with loads of ram (most likely 64-bit lol) and a multiple cores. Then there's virtual machines which can mimic the operating system of other people (chameleon anybody?) at the expense of hogging up some of the ram.

    On the other hand (still agreeing with you {for some reason realized that i love parenthesis {{or is that parenthesi?}}) it seems like the harddrive is always powered off. so whenever i need to pull up information that isn't stored in the gigs and gigs of ram, it takes a while for the drive to spin up and for the appropriate file/schema/memory/whatever to be found. Making sense still?

    Sidenote: you mentioned smoking. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to smoke for 2 months or so, but up until then I was smoking everyday. I found that my horizontal thinking was "overclocked" when high, much to my enjoyment. Being sober has given me the chance to think more linearly, but the increase in this areas is not as marked as the increase in the lateral thinking while stoned. /sidenote

    And unfortunately, everyone i run into (with the exception of PerC folks, but I don't technically run into them) is just too slow. Thy're running outdated processors, still on WinXP. Always playing the catch-up game.

    Here is where the irony sets in: If everyone is catching up, doesn't that make the one ahead the detriment to the group? Because if you don't intend on leaving everyone behind, which I do quite occasionally when it's obvious the person won't get it or when it won't help to explain, then you have to either wait for them to meet up with you on this metaphorical trail or else you have to back-track in the hopes of showing them the way, but expending your own personal energy. Either way, it's just inefficient.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaiKick View Post
    Shen an intuitive turns on his/her "sensing" abilities-- it is impossible to store every external event as a memory. Especially when sensing is new for us and it's like a barrage of info coming at once. We can only filter and process and store what's relevant at the given time.
    Using the computer analogy, I would say it is similar to using just a keyboard and a mouse. You can do everything you need to do with these, yet some people augment them with touchpads, drawing pads, webcams, microphones, etc. These allow for different, and simultaneous input, versus wherever the cursor is located. Maybe that was a good analogy, maybe not.

    Attempt #2 at crazy weird analogy: Clicking multiple files in quick succession knowing that they will open as the computer processes them, vs. clicking on them one at a time and waiting for each one to open (N vs. S). Sure, you get the same result, but are they really identical? The first method processes everything simultaneously, but the chances of an error or mis-clicking are significantly higher than the slower but more tried and true method of opening them one at a time. I can think of many times in which I've rapid-fire clicked and dragged and done the whole works only to be disappointed that one of the files I thought I moved 10 or 12 clicks back didn't actually go to the recycle bin.

    After typing this last section, I see that it has no bearing to what I quoted, yet is still relevant enough to be included.
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