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This is a discussion on What is your locus of control? within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I would say more internal, though I'm not sure if that is natural. I've made a conscious decision and realization ...

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I would say more internal, though I'm not sure if that is natural. I've made a conscious decision and realization that I have to be an active player in my own life. I must have and seek agency. Hey I might not seek much, but I recognize that the circumstances in my life, given the set of uncontrollables (my family, their economic status, my nationality), is the result of my own choices. It's a more pressure filled way of living, but also the more empowering.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamic Equilibrium View Post
    Lack of action is action in its self.
    You have to take time to recharge mentally.

    I'm doing that now, it's great. I take naps whenever I want. But it will all be over in a few weeks...

  3. #13
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Mostly internal. I might have played too many video games when I was young because I've ended up bringing the same attitude to life in general. Some things are obviously external, but my responses are always under my control. Even when things are bad I still feel like I have the power, I just haven't learned how to apply it the right way yet.
    I'm trying to imagine what the other way would be like and I think it would make me deeply unhappy.
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  4. #14
    INTP - The Thinkers

    It's much lower than it used to be, but it's at different levels with regards to different aspects of my life.

    The pattern I've experienced is that the less experience I have with something that I'm interested in doing, the greater my locus of control. In other words, it's grandiosity that causes me to think I can control something.

    Age teaches you differently, and dispells a lot of myths you believe in when younger, which includes a reduction of your locus of control. This isn't entirely bad, BTW, as it's healthy to know your limitations. Very few of us in the final analysis can afford to be grandiose, and in no small part it's due to the fact that very few people can stand to be around someone arrogant enough to believe that they can control everything.
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    I actually had the opposite experience, based on my different starting point.

    I used to have a more external locus of control and felt out of control of my own life, but gradually it's been shifting inside, and I find myself doing things that I need to do or want to do, regardless of the cost, and without trying to comply with those external forces... and gaining a lot of confidence in who I am and what I can do, because I realize I can control a lot more about my life than I thought I could.

    I never actually felt in my life that I could control much at all, I typically felt very self-defeated and at other people's whims when I was young. My only respite was avoiding people... but besides that, I realized very early that so many things could ruin my life no matter how hard I tried. I mean, I was very aware that I could be doing everything right, have great plans for myself, and maybe I'd get hit by a car or die from a heart condition unexpectedly or a zillion other things.

    For me, my life was about feeling like I couldn't control much at all and then coming into my own and realizing I had power to change my world far more than I ever realized. And even if I can't "change reality," what matters is that I am living the way I need to live and empowering myself no matter what external reality tries to exert control over me.
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  6. #16
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Internal. Definitely internal. I have seen so many people take the "that's just how life is" approach and come off worse for it. I know that random occurrences can happen in one's life that are outside their control, but I just don't do the "life just happens to me and I try to enjoy it as it passes by" thing anymore.
    This is probably the one aspect of my personality that made me question if I wasn't INTJ, but after I did a lot of reading into how MBTI reflects cognitive function (in Jung's theory) and how Ti-Ne looked and functioned as compared to Ni-Te, I am definitely INTP.
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  7. #17
    INFP - The Idealists

    Internal. This is specially interesting in relationships, because it seems you're giving a view of "standing" with that person rather than being part of a common project.
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    Having an internal locus of control is considered by psychologists to be the "healthier" option. External locus of control is common in sociopaths and criminals.
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  9. #19
    INTP - The Thinkers

    This concept being new to me, I had a brief look on wikipedia to get an idea of what each disposition entails. It’s difficult to pick one, at first glance I would say I identify more with an external locus as I’m never really under the illusion that I have a decent control of my life.

    As I see it there are far too many factors to take into consideration before being able to be reasonably confident about most things. I am a perfectionist(striving for perfection within the realm of my perception, despite being a lazy fuck) and my lack of motivation and skill often results in my falling short of (my brand of)perfection.
    I don’t only see this in myself, I can perceive it elsewhere such as in politics and the economy(easy targets). There is no shortage of human arrogance believing that these systems are/could be well within our control, but I see no evidence of the basic axioms upon which they are built(ever changing) converging upon any sort of stability.
    People are quick to make local choices that immediately satisfy their own desires, or have an initial moral appeal, yet they rarely give thought to, or even have the slightest grasp of, the repercussions their choices have on the chaos that is the society we live in.
    Whether an individual operates in this fashion or not, they are subjected to the consequences of the decisions taken by other subjective entities thus I find it difficult for any one person to have a true sense of control.

    In spite of, and because of, all this I don’t resign myself entirely to my fate. I do my best to accumulate information of use so that I might make the most informed decisions possible(and hopefully the most objective with respect to my goals) but I know that I can never be certain that I’ll achieve what I set out to accomplish.
    There are areas of life where I have given up completely, because I don’t see how any action I take could possibly improve the situation.

    Having an internal locus of control may be “healthier” for the individual but I would say it’s potentially just as dangerous at a greater scale as the actions of a sociopath, just often less obviously so.
    I suppose what I mean to say is that a non biased(i.e. religion) external locus of control seems like the most realistic way to go about things. Perhaps I haven’t properly grasped the concept.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by REEPER View Post
    In spite of, and because of, all this I don’t resign myself entirely to my fate. I do my best to accumulate information of use so that I might make the most informed decisions possible(and hopefully the most objective with respect to my goals) but I know that I can never be certain that I’ll achieve what I set out to accomplish.
    This right here is the key to having an internal locus.

    "I can't go on. I'll go on" to borrow a phrase from Beckett. You don't have to believe everything is under your control to have an internal locus. You have to believe in your own ability to deal effectively with change and uncertainty. It's "healthier" because if you don't have this attitude, you'll tend to blame others for your failures, which ultimately results in a failure to thrive (by some value of x parameter of your choosing).
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