[INTP] INTP vs. Memory (recollection, remembering, memorization); long term and short term

INTP vs. Memory (recollection, remembering, memorization); long term and short term

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This is a discussion on INTP vs. Memory (recollection, remembering, memorization); long term and short term within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; short gist: How is everyones' memory as of late? Please also indicate your age range; e.g. early/late teens, 20s, 30s, ...

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    Unknown Personality

    INTP vs. Memory (recollection, remembering, memorization); long term and short term

    short gist:

    How is everyones' memory as of late?

    Please also indicate your age range; e.g. early/late teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s+
    long gist:

    I'm still in my early 30's but I'm having serious issues with memorization.

    Say for example I am in a conversation. I wait for my turn to interject my feedback. This could be 1-on-1, other person doing the talking. Or this could be 1-to-many where I have an idea or scenario I want to toss in there, but to not be rude, wait for my turn.

    So I place the idea into 'pending' in the short term as I continue listening while attempting to feed in more of the conversation and run whatever is said into my head. Depending on duration, time lapse, interest, and timing to interject, I have noticed that I am frequently missing the mark to remember what I was going to say. This is perhaps due to absent-mindedness or thought process overload.

    On occasion, I would spend double the effort to backtrack and attempt to remember what I was going to say or ask. I find that there is a less than 40% of remembering exactly what I was going to ask at that point in time.

    Writing ideas down while other people are speaking may seem rude. Recording the conversation when applicable could be creepy (or unlawful) if they find out.

    So with this said, as time continues, I am finding myself having the difficulty of keeping thoughts in check for short-term memory.

    Long term memory are sometimes affected as well. For example, first date, birthday parties, and the likes. Usually guys don't pay attention to clothing worn, food(s) ordered, topics discussed, when, time, etc... but he would remember the event happened, why it happened, how it happened.

    I'm finding that I'm unable to recall in greater detail of why or how unless I try really hard or it'll just come into my head when I'm not thinking about it at all.

    What are your experiences with your short and long term memories? Do you feel like you're losing your mind if you are experiencing forgetfulness? Or perhaps do you feel negligent for not being more responsible to keep such memories 'fresh', 'prioritized', and 'on top'?



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    INTP - The Thinkers

    My short term memory has always been rubbish. If I let my concentration lapse even slighty, I can lose entire contexts and elaborate sequences of thought. It seems to be linked to relying on intuition. What the intuition showeth rapidly it doth taketh away even more quickly.

    It often happens when my intuition returns a relatively complex structure and I begin dissecting it and processing the pieces for communication. If I become too focused on how I go about describing things, I lose the idea completely.

    Depression seems to be hammering my ability to exploit intuition nowadays, without it I have nothing :(

    Long term is ok, if there is something worth remembering I usually manage to without a hitch. Most of my failures and cringe worthy conversations are etched into my brain, I often end up playing them back with photographic recollection despite my desire to forget. The ol brain likes to remind me of just how shit I am.

    I'm 26.

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm entering my 20s and I can't even remember what I ate for dinner yesterday. I should also say that I have several vitamin deficiencies and I rarely get a good night's rest.
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    25.

    I THINK my memory is bad, but I'm not sure (as with everything else).

    Short term is probably really bad, don't remember what I did the other day even if it was out of routine or very spectacular. "What? What do you mean my apartment burned down? So that's why my face was all meaty in the mirror."

    Long term seems to be all random, I don't really have control over it, sometimes a memory just pops up from the blue but I have quite hard to search for a specific memory. I've noticed though that some people looks surprised when I say something about them they've forgotten they've told me. But I think that is more due to my unsocial lifestyle than to good memory, if I've had 100hours of social interaction the last 6 months to keep in my memory and the counterpart 2000hours it's obvious it's easier for me to remember that exact moment.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I'm 33, I think my memory has been at a loss and diminished as compared to how I used to make use of it years ago, namely around 2006 when the noticeable decline started, it may have something to do with me engaging more in online-related things, which took up a greater amount of my time, as opposed to before when I spent much more time alone and actually held books in my hand. I used to have a very detailed memory, the kind that I could pinpoint and locate information instantly within my mind in the same way you know where a specific letter is in the dictionary when you turn it open.

    It's something that I can't even mimic today on my best day, there's no comparison. Today, I even try out/test out my memory frequently, and it's just very poor, I can be told something within a minute span, and literally forget about it six seconds in, I used to kind of be joyful about my memory previously since it was highly reliable, but now it's embarassing to a fault, I force myself real hard to remember the most basic of things I have just heard, seen, or come across and it's a wasted effort.

    Sometimes I think that perhaps because my focus in life has changed so much over the years, that I don't put the intense interest in little or major things as I once did, which may have been the number one contributor to my previously vivid memory, but since dealing with the online world and communities I have been involved with, I don't have that personal interest anymore, I don't hold information as being important for future reference, which is what I once did.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I have noticed my memory getting overloaded as time goes on.

    When I was a kid, I would remember everything. And I do mean everything. Exactly what anyone said, how they said it, where anything was when something happened, all the colors -- everything. And it was not important at all how much time passed since the event. The whole concept of daily planners and notes and such seemed ridiculous waste of paper to me.

    I always knew which words we (as a group) had learned in English class (not my first language, btw - I was far ahead of everyone in that subject) and if we had, then what book and what page it had been on. (Not numbers, though, I've no patience for numbers. I would remember units and the rough part of the book and which side of the page it was on and its position on the page and what was around the bit of information in question.)

    But then schoolwork got more and more intense and I think I stopped trying to remember all the things. I have developed a highly efficient system in my brain that has each piece of information labeled with a deletion date that is precise to the minute. Usually I connect them with certain events or endings.

    I have several experiences with testing when I aced the test itself, but during the brief time it took to get up from my seat, hand the paper in, and return, I had forgotten about 90% of everything I had crammed into my head all night long. I know it because people asked me for help as I was packing my stuff to leave and I opened my mouth to answer but the information simply wasn't there anymore. Even if it was the last thing I just wrote down 30 seconds ago. I don't think anyone believed me when I said I didn't remember the answer... XD

    Now the things I remember, I remember really well and I know if and to what extent I know something (and if it suffices for the situation) before actually retrieving the information itself. The things that got labeled as trash have never happened. Or I may vaguely remember what I thought of the thing that I don't remember. :D

    Also, I remember best what I read (often word for word) and more or less what I heard and not at all what I wrote. To put it in perspective, let's say I'm taking notes in class and the teacher stresses something that is very important and is likely to be on the test. If you asked me after class what we spent two hours discussing and writing down, I would have to check the notebook for the title and then suddenly I'd know exactly how much time we spent on each activity. I would also remember that there was this very important thing and where it was written and how long it was and what color the ink was and I could even see my own handwriting in my mind's eye, but I couldn't tell you for the life of me what the important thing was...

    I mentioned I'm terrible with numbers - I don't know a single phone number by heart or any birthdays or holidays. Not even how old I am. (Waste of space, it keeps changing too often.) And I can never remember menial stuff like what I ate or at what time I did anything. Most of the time I don't even bother to notice.

    My entire memory works on the 'all or nothing' principle. I also forget what I was supposed to say or do when following someone else's train of thought, but it helps greatly if I count the ideas I have. Then I'll know if I'm forgetting something and can ususally follow my own mental steps and sort of 'ping' the connections like a sonar. :D


    I'm 20 now.

    Sorry for the long rant, I don't think I could have explained it in less words, though.
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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    I am 18, and I would say my memory is above average. Nothing special. A few things I am terrible at are names however. If I concentrate, memorizing lists is pretty easy. Memorizing systems takes me a while....I need to know every detail before it just 'clicks'....then I begin making alterations.
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    Unknown Personality


    When I was a kid, I had an amazingly good memory. It was ridiculous. I could remember strings of 30 digits after hearing them once, it was that good. I could sightread a piece of music once and then remember it forever.

    But I got sick of remembering everything. For one, it's annoying when people claim they didn't say something when they absolutely did. Or when they remember something wrong. The more you remember, the harder you can think about things, too.

    I've been purposely destroying my short term memory for years.

    Successfully, for the most part.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by nadjasix View Post
    When I was a kid, I had an amazingly good memory. It was ridiculous. I could remember strings of 30 digits after hearing them once, it was that good. I could sightread a piece of music once and then remember it forever.

    But I got sick of remembering everything. For one, it's annoying when people claim they didn't say something when they absolutely did. Or when they remember something wrong. The more you remember, the harder you can think about things, too.

    I've been purposely destroying my short term memory for years.

    Successfully, for the most part.
    This, so much!

    Nowadays I mostly don't bother arguing very much, but every now and then I go to war with people and have to walk them through every thought in the conversation they remember wrong and even then they look confused... -_-
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I remember people's birthdays. Just not on that day.
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