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This is a discussion on Q&A about dating INTPs, and INTP dating: within the INTP Forum - The Thinkers forums, part of the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects category; I've had mostly bad experiences with women. One basically led me on, and was a stereotypical cheerleader (barring her intelligence.) ...

  1. #701
    INTP - The Thinkers

    I've had mostly bad experiences with women.

    One basically led me on, and was a stereotypical cheerleader (barring her intelligence.)

    Another tried whipping me, then got offended when I said "no."

    The last one was an emotional leech, but gave up when I gave no emotion.

    So now, at this moment, I'm not even trying. I found one attractive ENFP woman I've been talking to, but again, I'm hesitant to open up due to basically all my emotional outbursts being caused by women I've dated.

  2. #702
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by Daevor View Post
    @Marimeli

    more accurately, though, I'd say you had cake your by eating it :p
    I don't know..the two being synonyms, I'm not sure you could argue that one is the vehicle for the occurrence of the other, but rather that both things were concurrent or synchronous. Thus I stand by "and." :D


    On another note (@kasthu inspired me and now I'm curious): to all,

    what is the dumbest wedding tradition from your culture?

  3. #703
    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by Marimeli View Post
    I don't know..the two being synonyms, I'm not sure you could argue that one is the vehicle for the occurrence of the other, but rather that both things were concurrent or synchronous. Thus I stand by "and." :D


    On another note (@kasthu inspired me and now I'm curious): to all,

    what is the dumbest wedding tradition from your culture?
    Pretty much all of them. Knowing my taste in weddings (or lack thereof), if I ever get married I'll probably get married at City Hall. On my lunch break.
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  4. #704
    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by kasthu View Post
    Pretty much all of them. Knowing my taste in weddings (or lack thereof), if I ever get married I'll probably get married at City Hall. On my lunch break.
    Heh, that's what my husband wanted... he even lined up a friend to drive around the block so we wouldn't have to pay for parking *snickers*

    I didn't go for that. :) But we did have a pretty low-key event, all things considered.

  5. #705
    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Sounds like the type of guy I'd date.

    Another thing I'd hate: public proposals.
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  6. #706
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    Other wedding-tradition things that I think should be no-no's:

    1. Allowing a drunk brother/fraternity buddy of the groom to give a toast
    2. Ring bearers, if they are too young to tie their own shoelaces (I'll allow a dog as a ring-bearer, though)
    3. Deciding for each guest where s/he will sit at the reception (why am I always seated with the mother of the bride's bridge-playing girlfriends?)
    4. DJs (unless the dancing is in another room, so people can actually talk to each other without having to scream over the music)
    5. Bridezillas. That includes women who spend more time thinking about one day of their lives than they do thinking about the fifty years that follow that one day
    6. Playing the song "I Will Always Love You". It's about a breakup, you nitwits!!!!!
    7. Anything to do with garters
    8. Linking elbows to drink champagne
    9. Blown-up condoms attached to the car. Really?
    10. Making an orchestrated production out of something that should be warm, sincere, and in the style of what the bride and groom can afford
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  7. #707
    ENTP - The Visionaries

    When a SO expresses their love for me or affection, I want it straightforward and obvious, not subtle. Sure, I could guess what they might mean and thus try to "analyze it" all day and all night, but am I interpreting their actions (or words) correctly? Did they mean what they said (especially if they say it too much or too little)? Is it possible they meant to say something else but it came out wrong? This could either simply be a preference of how we want communication to be or an inner sense of emotional insecurity, due to possible inexperience or simply second guessing (or even a mix of both).

    I noticed that if I'm feeling insecure, I do want very straightforward ways of affection being expressed yet second guess myself to the point of inaction, which has caused some problems in multiple relationships. Inaction does not constitute a lack of interest, although it is perceived by many to be the case. However, if I'm feeling confident or that my SO is being sincere, I can be (at times) quite affectionate as long as I'm sure they won't find my showing affection as being clingy or something. Otherwise, I will look at the other person a lot as my form of affection or adoration (more subtle ways I suppose).
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  8. #708
    ENTP - The Visionaries


    Quote Originally Posted by DaisyChain View Post
    Other wedding-tradition things that I think should be no-no's:

    1. Allowing a drunk brother/fraternity buddy of the groom to give a toast
    2. Ring bearers, if they are too young to tie their own shoelaces (I'll allow a dog as a ring-bearer, though)
    3. Deciding for each guest where s/he will sit at the reception (why am I always seated with the mother of the bride's bridge-playing girlfriends?)
    4. DJs (unless the dancing is in another room, so people can actually talk to each other without having to scream over the music)
    5. Bridezillas. That includes women who spend more time thinking about one day of their lives than they do thinking about the fifty years that follow that one day
    6. Playing the song "I Will Always Love You". It's about a breakup, you nitwits!!!!!
    7. Anything to do with garters
    8. Linking elbows to drink champagne
    9. Blown-up condoms attached to the car. Really?
    10. Making an orchestrated production out of something that should be warm, sincere, and in the style of what the bride and groom can afford
    You basically nixed everything that makes weddings interesting.
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  9. #709
    ISTJ - The Duty Fulfillers

    At my reception, a woman came up to me and started gushing about how wonderful marriage (in general) is. This is a woman who's famous for the public screaming matches she has with her husband.
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  10. #710
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Marimeli View Post
    I don't know..the two being synonyms, I'm not sure you could argue that one is the vehicle for the occurrence of the other, but rather that both things were concurrent or synchronous. Thus I stand by "and." :D
    I understand your view point, but the two are not perfectly synonymous (e.g. we're not talking "noctambulism/somnambulism" here). I agree that they can have identical meanings in terms of consumption of a delicacy or other edible item, but "had" may also mean past ownership and/or possession when in reference to any item, idea, feeling, etc. Consider the following:
    Q: "Who had the cake last night?"
    A: "I had the cake in my fridge from 8pm to 11:30pm, at which point I noticed my fridge was not working. I then arranged with my fraternity mate down the hall to have him keep it in his fridge instead."

    The above demonstrates that the word "had" may mean "(past) possession", even when referring to edible items.
    Hence, I see you having your cake by eating it as a qualification of which meaning of "had/have" is intended.

    Of course I may be completely wrong, in which case I trust you'll not hesitate to correct me.

    EDIT: Furthermore, if you still stand by "and", then we're smack bang in the middle of the territory of tautology, which I find rather unpalatable.
    Last edited by Daevor; 07-30-2012 at 02:14 AM.
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