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  1. #11
    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingo View Post
    I don't even think about ISFJ's; let alone any other type to be honest.
    You´re 21. That makes sense. As you get older, as an INTJ, there may come a point in your life where the mistery of why other people are s freaking different/weird becomes more important. You´ve signed up in this forum which already shows some curiosity. (Not all INTJ's develop interest in other types by the way. Personal development is mostly the result of the need to develop. It's not really a choice.)

    Being interested in other types does not mean being interested in people. This should make sense to you. It's not like Fe is developing in INTJ's over time. It really doesn't.
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  2. #12

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    You´re 21. That makes sense. As you get older, as an INTJ, there may come a point in your life where the mistery of why other people are s freaking different/weird becomes more important. You´ve signed up in this forum which already shows some curiosity. (Not all INTJ's develop interest in other types by the way. Personal development is mostly the result of the need to develop. It's not really a choice.)

    Being interested in other types does not mean being interested in people. This should make sense to you. It's not like Fe is developing in INTJ's over time. It really doesn't.
    I should remove my age off my profile - it's always an emphasis by older individuals.

    You've misunderstood - understandable, I should've elaborated a little more. There is no general extensive interest in 16 different personality types for me; I have lots of interest with people. I just don't decipher individuals down to personality types then formulate a solid opinion on them like hatred, based on a sole characteristics specific to a personality type is more of what I meant.

    To be more clear, if I dislike the OP - it isn't because she's an ISFJ, its probably a character flaw.

    Though, thanks for the insight, I'll keep that in mind.

  3. #13

    I don't think ISFJ's have a negative or pessimistic attitude. I think maybe any type who uses Si over Se may be seen as having a more negative attitude. But I don't think it's true. But anyone can come across as a positive person and everyone has their moments surely. Just maybe Se types are more likely to live in the moment so not worry about things so much. But I don't think ISFJ's are seen as being negative. I would say a type who is more critical with their opinion would be seen as having a negative attitude like maybe INTX or ENTJ. Or for example an unhealthy INFJ who is caught in an existential crisis. But that could be any type. ISXJ's have inferior Ne so they may be more prone to dismissing new ideas as they often don't do well with decisions or change if it confusing to them. But I don't think that makes them negative. And I'd say they seem to have more of a positive attitude overall and most I've met are really nice to be around and put me at ease. In fact ISFX's are probably the types most likely to avoid any negativity. Which is a nice quality as long as it doesn't become counter-productive to actually avoid negativity by inadvertently making it worse. Not sure if that answered your question as it was a bit rambling. But basically no I don't see ISFJ's as negative.
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  5. #14
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Perhaps the combination of Fe and Si can cause emotions to recirculate longer than in other types.
    I am very close to an ISFJ, and she can be so cheerful and goofy and helpful, but she has always been a worrier. If something causes an unpleasant emotion or someone she cares about is unhappy, she yearns for earlier times and recollects positive memories, which seems like it should help but it only makes her more nostalgic and discontent. From this outlook, any other mildly negative situation becomes bigger when combined with the memories of this past. Then of course, as other posters have mentioned, Ti comes into play and over-thinking is possible. I think this is the main struggle ISFJs face, that their Fe picks up something wrong and the Si links it to the past. The same thing can happen with NTs except it is harder for them to understand what is happening since those are the inferior functions of some types.
    However, this negativity is not all negative. The nostalgia can be multiple emotions, and noticing something wrong is necessary for improvement. In cooperation with others especially (which is the ISFJs forte), their Fe and Si leads them to an appropriate solution.
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  6. #15
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    is this the invasion the other thread is speaking of?

    i realized that my realism is viewed as pessimism, but most of the time im optimistic :D and most of the other only the the negativ things. :)

  7. #16

    My favorite person from my family is an ISFJ. He is very intelligent, sensitive and caring, and we share the same interests: arts, cinema, literature etc. I had very deep conversations with him.
    I remember when my father (his grandfather) died, how he tried to comfort me all the time and held my hand during the funeral, staying by my side all the time.

    edit: I misunderstood a little the title of the thread (I don't feel very well, so I have an excuse :P). Indeed, my ISFJ family member also seems to have a very negative/ pessimistic attitude towards life.
    Last edited by Hiraeth; 10-07-2015 at 08:47 AM.
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    My mom is an ISFJ. We are similar (I and J we share, and our I's are very high. Stronger F on her side while I have an almost even F/T) but we are also quite different. She's one of the most responsible people I knoe. When I had to stay with my parents she made sure that I always get three meals a day, take vitamins, etc. all those small routinely things I am bad at keeping up with, she does a damn good job of, "stabilizing".

    The thing about negativity on dsily life..I think I can see that in my mom too. Whenever we go to Korean BBQ she's compulsive about having meat (even beef) completely cooked (no pink anywhere!). Then she will lecture about the possibility of being sick due to parasites...only well-done acceptable. She does get into my dad's and my nerves when she tries to push that belief onto us but she means well so haha. Inferior Ne I guess?

  9. #18
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mendi the ISFJ View Post
    is there something in our functions that might explain this?
    In response to the OP, I think that this might have something to do with it:

    https://personalitycafe.com/isfj-foru...dark-side.html

    Not that every ISFJ fits the stereotype, but it certainly seems to be a trend. :)

  10. #19
    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by TeresaJ View Post
    In response to the OP, I think that this might have something to do with it:

    https://personalitycafe.com/isfj-foru...dark-side.html

    Not that every ISFJ fits the stereotype, but it certainly seems to be a trend. :)
    Good one! I think that thread explains it well.

  11. #20
    ISFJ - The Nurturers

    Quote Originally Posted by johnson.han.3 View Post
    really? o.o i dont feel this way
    interesting, would you consider yourself a positive person? and more importantly (for my research) do you think other people of other types consider you positive?


     
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