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    ISFP - The Artists

    ISFP and making final decisions

    Hi, as an ISFP I like to leave things open. I have a hard time making final decisions about external things. I just go with the flow. But sometimes when I really need to make a final decision and make things happen, I can apply logics to the situation. This is probably the inferior Te working. If I am not pleased with the way things are going I ask myself: "Do I like the way things are?" Answer: "No!" Solution: You have to do something about it. I know it seems really simple but it's a way to force myself into some J behaviour.

    It's fascinating how hard it can be to use simple logics in making personal decisions. At least for an ISFP.

    Do other ISFP:s have the same experiences? What about other types? Have you noticed your inferior function in action??
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    i cant make a choice. im in a liberal arts degree because i just can not commit to anything... its the same with the relationships...

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    ISFP - The Artists

    Hi, I give another example: I was recently chatting with this cute girl by SMS, and I wanted to flirt with her. But I wasn't sure if it would be appropriate. So I felt that making a final feeling decision was not possible. Then I would just remain silent and say nothing. (That's what I would normally do). But then I asked myself: "Do I want to continue my interaction with her in this neutral way like before?" Answer: "No", Solution "start flirting a little". So I did, and I still don't know if it was appropriate, but at least I was able to make a decision. My way of understanding it is that I used inferior thinking in the service of feeling. It's a way to cope with situation where feeling can't make up it's mind.
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    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” albert einstein
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by slightlybatty View Post
    “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” albert einstein
    I do not quite see the contrast in full evidence here. Doing the same thing in method under varying conditions is for the purpose of varifying whether something has a influence or is affected by probablity. As opposed to actually doing the exact same thing again and again in what may be conceived as the same conditions, but are in fact altering.

    ...I asked myself: "Do I want to continue my interaction with her in this neutral way like before?" Answer: "No", Solution "start flirting a little". So I did, and I still don't know if it was appropriate, but at least I was able to make a decision. My way of understanding it is that I used inferior thinking in the service of feeling. It's a way to cope with situation where feeling can't make up it's mind.
    It is combinations like this that affect the intuitive traits to develop. Incorporating you T in conjunction with your Fi seems to have given further insight into interrelations between how your cognitions affect your actions. If you maintain this method you may just enhance your subverted intuitions. Practice may just make a good intuition by mode of probabilities based on evidence/experience.
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    ISFP - The Artists

    Quote Originally Posted by NephilimAzrael View Post
    It is combinations like this that affect the intuitive traits to develop. Incorporating you T in conjunction with your Fi seems to have given further insight into interrelations between how your cognitions affect your actions. If you maintain this method you may just enhance your subverted intuitions. Practice may just make a good intuition by mode of probabilities based on evidence/experience.
    Thanks NephilimAzrael for interesting comment.

    For me it's a problem in my life that my F is so concerned with harmony, that I'm unable to break status quo. Things can go on for years in the same way, virtually dead relationships, boring work etc. But then I'm able to make up my mind by *not* concentrating on the possible action that has to be taken, but rather to let feeling examine status quo. If F doesn't like it, then T can take over and come to the conclusion that something has to be done and be responsible for breaking harmony. I let T do the dirty work, so to speak.

    I think I understand what you said about this enhancing intuition. Interesting idea. Thanks.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    I agree with Sleepy and the T part.
    I've been having a turbulent social life (lots of changes at once etc),
    and my F has been feelings lots of things, very good to very bad...
    values have been put into question, just as people have been put into question...
    I force myself to become rational in order to put things in place, in my mind and also in life, and when I often feel bad I try to figure out why and I look for a solution (short or long one).
    I also try not to ask too many questions when my F is scorned by someone or a series of events, but instead I try to take it the way it is and I put it aside (and I try to figure occasions & people out sometimes, perhaps to try and 'understand' [not implying empathy :p]).

    I've written a sequel on this and posted it as a blog text because it wasn't related to this thread anymore :)

    I'm not good at making final decisions in general. If you give me time, I will use it to contemplate and will probably wander for too long, so it's good there have to be deadlines met. I also very much value when someone can offer me some clear guidelines.
    A good example of a decision to be made soon is picking my major and location to study next year. I noticed I am very fickle and I put off things. I'll just have to dig in and choose. But I've been told there is no such thing as the right decision, so I'm going for Best Decision for me.
    I'm usually satisfied once I've reached a decision, so I have no complains so far :)! I would like to believe it is something called "gut" :p

    Wether it be in a social circle or a professional one, sometimes we need to make decisions that matter quite a lot to us and will shape us in several ways.
    So when I'm all messed up in my head and question myself way too much than necessary (open endedness),
    I've learned it's good to keep my head clear, and I'm just gonna try and stay focused...

    People like me don't easily reach decisions, actually they only do after they feel it is their responsibility over others, or if someone supports them and gives them advice.
    (Thank god for time & management.)
    But strangely enough, if you put me in a closed room (away from distractions, from influences, ..) and give me time for myself, I am suddenly able to put everything in order and figure out what my next move should be.
    I have this odd mechanism of trying to please others. That's why I need that closed off room to myself.
    Last edited by Linesky; 02-15-2009 at 11:50 AM.
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    Here is the JungianMutt take on it:

    I personally hate open-endedness and uncertainty. If I am taking a trip, I plan most of the important details, and I work really well on a deadline...as a matter of fact, if there is no deadline (say to class assignments-I just had this issue the past week) I am completely lost.

    I believe I am like this because as a child most decisions were made FOR me. I am just learning NOW to make good decisions on my own, which, yes I know is very sad, but at least I recognize the need to take charge of my own destiny!

    I was taught, mainly by the cult I was raised in, that thinking independently was a terrible thing and could be very dangerous. It has taken my parents (who are in their mid-50s) the past 10 years to unwrap their minds from this teaching. Unfortunately, even though I have not been actively involved in this organization for nearly 20 years, I still had that belief rolling around in my head and it made decision-making incredibly stressful and difficult for me.

    I still collaborate with people I trust on major decisions-mainly my Dad and my SO, as they are two of the wisest people I know. But for most things I do a quick "values check" and just do it. I let the chips fall where they may and hope that if I make a horrible decision, I will get the chance at a do-over and do it right the next time.

    I have major stuff coming up in the next few months that will require me to make very difficult decisions and just this weekend I've started dreading that time coming b/c my feelings are running away with me about these things. The anticipation of having to make the decisions (and they are very, very tough things regarding my child) is worse to me than the actual solidifying of the decision.

    In general, though, I just make a decision and stick with it. I'm not very good at kicking things around. It makes me very anxious. ( I think that's my T/J kicking in though...)
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    i like your take on it expressive girl

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    Thanks, Batty.

    OPENENDEDNESS=
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