[ISTP] ENFP 3w4 sx/so just started dating an ISTP type 1 sp/so (I think)

ENFP 3w4 sx/so just started dating an ISTP type 1 sp/so (I think)

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This is a discussion on ENFP 3w4 sx/so just started dating an ISTP type 1 sp/so (I think) within the ISTP Forum - The Mechanics forums, part of the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators category; And just ended a relationship with an ENTJ 8w7 sp/sx who I am still not over. Kinda feels soon, but ...

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    ENFP 3w4 sx/so just started dating an ISTP type 1 sp/so (I think)

    And just ended a relationship with an ENTJ 8w7 sp/sx who I am still not over. Kinda feels soon, but I feel it's worth it to give the ISTP guy a chance, the timing is just not totally in his favor. Any advice?



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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    It's so cute when woman thinks she is the world... Give him a chance tsss.

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    Note: I'm not a 3w4, I'm a 6w7. Not that it makes a big difference. Anyway, I guess I don't really NEED advice, it would be nice to have some help though. I'd like to get to know him, he's an intriguing person. The thing is he looks like super dissatisfied with his surroundings like what is that?! I have to really be bright and cheery to make him open up to me. It's not exhausting at all, it's kind of natural, but IDK if that's something he wants. Like do ISTPs want someone to make them happy or are they content on being like whatever emotion is behind that resting bitch face?

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    what type of windows

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by WindowLicker View Post
    Note: I'm not a 3w4, I'm a 6w7. Not that it makes a big difference. Anyway, I guess I don't really NEED advice, it would be nice to have some help though. I'd like to get to know him, he's an intriguing person. The thing is he looks like super dissatisfied with his surroundings like what is that?! I have to really be bright and cheery to make him open up to me. It's not exhausting at all, it's kind of natural, but IDK if that's something he wants. Like do ISTPs want someone to make them happy or are they content on being like whatever emotion is behind that resting bitch face?
    Dissatisfied: are there people around? In that case I can understand him.

    And: what emotion? If the face is blank, there is no emotion. If there is an emotion you will see it. We suck at putting up a social mask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WindowLicker View Post
    I have to really be bright and cheery ...

    I'm torn between wanting a livestream of every interaction for epic lulz or staying the fuck away halfway around the world in fear of my sanity.

    And just on the off chance that OP is serious because the over-the-top-ness is so over the top you can't even see the top anymore: Just basically take everything you did for the ENTJ, and do the opposite. That should please him well. (But of course you aren't going to, which is why I want to watch and finally figure out the solution to the unstoppable force paradox.)

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    @Spell66 Well, yeah. We're in public. He comes off emotionless and blank when he's talking, but seems a little happier when I'm talking. I don't know what exactly dissatisfies him about the environment, or if maybe he's just on alert- or both. He said he doesn't like putting his back to people and he's always ready for something to happen because of what the world is like. He also likes to express his dissatisfaction about things; doctors, junk food, the world. I don't understand that kind of mentality, is it normal?

    @Northern Lights Well, I'm not going to alter my personality in any way to please anyone. ENTJ was pretty happy, the relationship didn't work out because we wanted different things. If you're worried about your sanity already, maybe seek professional help.
    Last edited by WindowLicker; 08-12-2019 at 06:48 PM.

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by WindowLicker View Post
    @Spell66 Well, yeah. We're in public. He comes off emotionless and blank when he's talking, but seems a little happier when I'm talking. I don't know what exactly dissatisfies him about the environment, or if maybe he's just on alert- or both. He said he doesn't like putting his back to people and he's always ready for something to happen because of what the world is like. He also likes to express his dissatisfaction about things; doctors, junk food, the world. I don't understand that kind of mentality, is it normal?

    @Northern Lights Well, I'm not going to alter my personality in any way to please anyone. ENTJ was pretty happy, the relationship didn't work out because we wanted different things. If you're worried about your sanity already, maybe seek professional help.
    Hell yeah! Besides the fact that seeking the center of a room makes you vulnerable in the back it also means you look for the center of social life.

    Instead of other introverted types ISTP's have the ability to not be awkward when stepping into social life. It is just that we live on the fringe of it. We step in and out when we please, which shows in the fact that we most of the time look for a wall or a bar to cling on to.

    By the way, the way for an ISTP not to become awkward requires its Se to be strongly developed, so he/ she is well aware what goes on in social life.

    I personally recognize his attitude. It is kind of a sigma trait. The recognition that most people are dumb as hell and talk a lot of bullshit. This especially is the case with people who have had an education in a certain field. They think they are experts, but all they have to show for is the fact that they excelled in repeating stuff out of a book. Rarely is there a sign of critical thinking.

    I invite you to test it. You would be amazed. Instead of just swallowing whatever a doctor or dietitian or whatever kind of scientist says, just ask the question: "why". And don't accept things like "I think, I feel, It is proven, research shows, just believe me". Ask them how THEY came to the conclusion, how it actually works. Let's see how fast you will be called an annoying bitch and people start to hate you because you unravel their aura of superiority (which is so fucking easy. I will take on any dietitian and have them disqualified within minutes and I don't even have to debate them. I just call them on any contradiction).

    To see what is actually happening, instead of what you think is happening requires strong logical thinking and quite some knowledge. Let that actually be the strong point of an developed ISTP.

    But knowing that you can't rely on other people puts the burden on yourself to get by in the world. And therefore I feel strongly like he does.

    For you as a dreamer and idealist this is very hard to understand I think. We don't see the good and bad in people, we see dumb or smart things people do and judge them on that. And a lot of people do very dumb things.

    Does this help a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WindowLicker View Post
    @Northern Lights Well, I'm not going to alter my personality in any way to please anyone. ENTJ was pretty happy, the relationship didn't work out because we wanted different things. If you're worried about your sanity already, maybe seek professional help.
    Feisty :3
    See, that, on the other hand, is a good idea. A bit of attitude, not taking any crap, direct and to the point, and he's already interested. Were you to try to be extra bright and cheery, he'd only get sick from a sugar high and wouldn't be in any state to be useful to you. Your normal cheerieness is quite enough, and otherwise just let him grouch. It's a hobby we can't do without.
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    Thank you for the replies. I'll keep them in mind if I date another ISTP... o.o Also he scored tritype 137 sx/sp.


     

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