[ISTP] Are ISTPs the Spiteful personalities?

Are ISTPs the Spiteful personalities?

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This is a discussion on Are ISTPs the Spiteful personalities? within the ISTP Forum - The Mechanics forums, part of the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators category; So I got thinking, again. ISTPs are known as the rebel types. We very rarely conform to any particular norm ...

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    ISTP - The Mechanics


    Are ISTPs the Spiteful personalities?

    So I got thinking, again.

    ISTPs are known as the rebel types.
    We very rarely conform to any particular norm and when we even sense that we are we immediately rebel against it.
    We do things against others wishes.
    We don't care for most people in general.
    And we generally don't like being controlled.

    Does that mean are actions are spiteful in nature as most of our actions are in effect rebellious against the norm?
    Can we really be detached completely from petty emotions when we take these actions?

    And what if we aren't aware of it?
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    I care about people I like.
    I conform to norms that make sense to me.
    I very rarely act (or, as it rather more often is, don't act) out of spite. It's usually a question of something I couldn't be bothered to do, and where I didn't care enough to voice my position in the question.

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    I'm not spiteful, just lazy.
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Ive acted out of spite in the past, from burning desire to not be told what to do or controlled.
    I'm not going to lie about it.
    I still get these urges but i've grown out of them for the most part.

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    That doesn't sound like what ISTPs do.

    The only time I act spiteful is when I know that the danger or risk of showing my negative emotions to a person in authority is going to excite me

    Elsewise, ISTPs don't tend to be rebellious, they just do things that make sense and "rebel" against things that don't.
    In the same way, ISTPs conform to norms that make sense, and "rebel" against norms that don't.
    ISTPs usually only do things against others' wishes when that person is in a position of authority or that wish is attempting to constrict the ISTPs freedom.
    ISTPs do care for people they they like and "don't care" about other people... just like everybody else in this world.
    But yes, ISTPs don't like being controlled.

    Just because something describes you doesn't mean that it describes ISTPs in general
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    If I cannot get the point across to a fucktard no matter which of the usual methods I employ, the spite switch turns on. If the point doesn't get brought across, I just hold onto that tiny bit of hope that either natural selection kills them off or the world ends. But only momentarily of course, usually just forget about it seconds later unless it is something that really grinds my gears.
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    When being told to do something with no valid reason, I won't do it. "Because I said so" is the fastest way to get on my hit list. It's not spite, it's self defense, though it can stir an anger reaction the same way instinctual fight or flight resorting to fight flips on the anger switch. It irritated my parents who expected me to act without question. I had to know the detailed 'why' behind every order and would take being punishment over blindly following something that didn't make sense.

    When I do something out of the norm, I don't notice I'm doing anything 'strange' until someone points it out. After being told, I'll shrug my shoulders and keep going because what I'm doing works for me.

    The want to not be controlled doesn't have to be an ISTP deal. I doubt many like having their lives run by others.
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    I'm not a rebel, I don't react strongly against things, I just reject them internally and then quietly do what I want to do. Sometimes it gets noticed, sometimes it ticks other people off that I'm not doing what they think I/everyone should be doing, sometimes it doesn't.

    I cannot be controlled. People with control issues always have issues with me because they think my easy-going nature means they can conform me to their will, and then they find that they can't and it ticks them off. Then I know that they have control issues and I get away from them (if it's a social relationship) or go into stealth mode and quietly hold my ground with them (if they're someone I have to work with for whatever reason).

    I'm not a spiteful person. I don't hate anyone. When someone does me wrong and I decide that I'm done with them, I'm just done. I wish them well, pity them, hope they change for the better, but I'm interested in living a simple, honest, peaceful, and happy life. I don't have room in it for spite. Spiteful thinking and behavior is really unattractive to me and I want nothing to do with it myself. Not saying I can't be tempted, because I am tenacious when I do get fired up about something, but when I find myself feeling hostile toward someone I dig deeper and figure out what's going on and how I want to handle it, internally and/or externally. Then I handle it and find that the hostility disappears.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    I don't conform to things, but I'm not actively rebelling against things either "just because". That would go against our Ti, if anything. It doesn't make sense. If other's wishes makes sense and it makes sense for me to follow them, then sure. But if not, then no. Simple. ISTPs care for people, sure, we're not all psychopaths. And not liking being controlled does not make us spiteful. Being completely detached from emotions is not a part of MBTI. You will see that in some mental illnesses, though.
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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    We very rarely conform to any particular norm and when we even sense that we are we immediately rebel against it. I do what I want. Whether or not it is the norm doesn't factor into it.
    We do things against others wishes. Only if I think it is a stupid wish.
    We don't care for most people in general. Actually it is more like I don't care what most people think of me. But I do have a bit of the humanitarian in me.
    And we generally don't like being controlled. I'm human. Most humans don't like it they just don't all have the nerve to say f you and go their own way.

    Does that mean are actions are spiteful in nature as most of our actions are in effect rebellious against the norm? If I remember the definition of spite correctly, then occasionally yeah. I have days where I set out to annoy or just piss people off. It is why I tell people I actually like don't let me know if I'm annoying you, because I will remember.
    Can we really be detached completely from petty emotions when we take these actions? I don't know how to answer this one. Nine times out of ten I don't know what I'm feeling to begin with.

    And what if we aren't aware of it? Then I don't know and, unless someone points it out, it will likely never cross my mind.
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