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This is a discussion on Understanding the Archetypes involving the eight functions of type (Beebe model) within the Jungian Theory forums, part of the Other Personality Theories category; Originally Posted by Eric B According to his theory, the feelings of those complexes would reach by by way of ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    According to his theory, the feelings of those complexes would reach by by way of the associated function somehow. Yes, the complexes are not conflated with the functions, but they are connected within the ego structure. So for you, the "learning" would somehow be connected with Fe, and the hero would be Se (which should figure, as that's the ego's main achiever).
    When I say learning anything knew, I really mean ANYTHING, connected to Fe or not. I think now you see my point. And this does not even scratch the surface. You feel like a child in a lot of DIFFERENT situations.

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    Yes, but still the process of learning (or other situations where you might feel like a child) could still be connected with Fe in some way; not necessarily the stuff learned. Like you might look up to others and want to connect, socially or through shared values or something. (Not saying this is necessarily how it works for you, but that's generally the idea).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    Yes, but still the process of learning (or other situations where you might feel like a child) could still be connected with Fe in some way; not necessarily the stuff learned. Like you might look up to others and want to connect, socially or through shared values or something. (Not saying this is necessarily how it works for you, but that's generally the idea).
    Ok so to keep this as short as possible: I know what the general idea is and I think the general idea s*ucks.

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    A lot if great material here. Thanks for putting the work in Eric B.

    i'm going to read it at my leisure over the next few days.
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    Here's a good site I found that has articles on this stuff, and in this one, an exposition of Beebe's take on Bob Dylan, which gives a good sample of how he breaks these things down in his model.

    Archetypes in a Portrait of Bob Dylan*

    It has some very interesting information about what happens with all the "arm" archetypes when the Puer (tertiary) is stronger than the Parent (aux).
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  7. #86

    Oh, is this the site that called Jung an INTJ (more in terms of J/P rather than Ni dominance)?

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    Don't know; haven't seen what they said about Jung's type.

  9. #88

    Hard read @[email protected] I haven't finished yet, but QUESTION quote:"When we have individual experiences that fit into these particular collective frames of organization we are discussing, and form a pattern in us, they then enter the personal part of the unconscious, and becomecomplexes. The archetype is at the core of the complex. And then the archetype forms an encasement around the function. The function then becomes the operational perspective or "world-view" of that complex."

    Question: Oops nevermind.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B View Post
    Yes, but still the process of learning (or other situations where you might feel like a child) could still be connected with Fe in some way; not necessarily the stuff learned. Like you might look up to others and want to connect, socially or through shared values or something. (Not saying this is necessarily how it works for you, but that's generally the idea).
    So.. in a new situation where an ESTP wouldnt be comfortable (lol, hard to imagine for an ESTP actually, as for Se dom) he would rely on Fe, as for looking up to someone?
    And INTP in an unknown situation would lean on Si, if complexes associated with Ti don't work in the given situation? I wonder what it means.. Trying to remember something similar from past and then, when succesful, getting back to Ti complexes?

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    Those were examples I gave. It will depend on the situation. The ESTP will often use his Fe along with Se in fitting one of Keirsey's descriptions of the type ("the lights come on, the games begin", etc. even though Keirsey rejected the functions). In that case, it will be about "relifef". At other times, it could be looking up to others, especially when young, and he's developing his social skills.
    For me, Si is often relief, and if I don't understand something, such as putting something together, then yes, I'll tend to rely on a heavily Si-strained Ti to "wing" it, basically.


     
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