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If You Had a Choice Would You Get Rid of the 2016 Election and Have Obama's 3rd Term?

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This is a discussion on If You Had a Choice Would You Get Rid of the 2016 Election and Have Obama's 3rd Term? within the Member Polls forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by wickedly Excuse me, have you ever sat through a debate with Donald Trump? I am going to ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedly View Post
    Excuse me, have you ever sat through a debate with Donald Trump?
    I am going to take that as a Hard No. That dude straight up quotes fascism, Nazi's and white supremacists and is totally cool with it. because he wants to be associated with interesting quotes. The republican nominee supports Qaddafi, and Saddam Hussein and Mussolini. The fuck? he is better than Obama?

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    The words of Trevor Noah --- "Right now, America's election looks like its getting into a marriage its going to regret. And everyone can see that this is a bad idea. And i get it, you spent so much money, and you invited every one and it has been scheduled. But, i am going to be that asshole friend that tells you how it is--maybe you need to call it off, do not go through this wedding. because i am telling you, that two years from now, you are going to see your Ex (Obama) walking down the street and realize, man.. i didn't realize how good i had it."
    I repeat ANYONE IS BETTER THEN OBAMA. Its the debate between "Doing nothing and letting the country get worse" or electing someone new who might do something. We need CHANGE and Obama did not DELIVER! Be it Hillary, Trump, or Berny I have more faith these people will do something vs Obama doing nothing for all the years he was in office. I mean bush sent us to war but guess what? HE DID SHIT! What did Obama do but party and put his fat face on telivision? Anyone who gives a shit about America know that we need a president that is going to act not just talk about how great he is. Obama said he would end the war and never did. By the way if Obama was not such a bad president a Nazi Facist wouldnt look fantastic to the American people now would they?

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    So.......I'm thinking I'm way too old, and, maybe have seen way more shit than the younger, nihilistic posters here, but GET A FUCKING CLUE.

    Obama kept the country on an even keel after the economic implosion in 2008. His choices weren't perfect, but they got the job done. Today, HRC is, without question, our most qualified candidate. She will build on President Obama's policies and move us forward. Do not sacrifice the good for the perfect. Unicorns exist only in fiction.

    Study history, especially late 20th century political history if you want to understand how we are where we are today.

  3. #13

    If You Had a Choice Would You Get Rid of the 2016 Election and Have Obama's 3rd Term?

    No lol but I'd trade off Hillary or trump to just have congress for 4 years or heck even full on anarchy aside from courts and the constitution lol. Obama is a touch worse then Hillary and a touch better than Bernie or trump. The whole lot is miles below someone as dumb as Cruze and he's miles below Rand Paul.

    I'll be happily voting Johnson. I don't agree with him on everything but there is nothing disaterous about him lol, he can hold out for 4 years until Rand Paul can win the republican primary and I can call myself a republican again hopefully lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddyNash View Post
    I repeat ANYONE IS BETTER THEN OBAMA. Its the debate between "Doing nothing and letting the country get worse" or electing someone new who might do something. We need CHANGE and Obama did not DELIVER! Be it Hillary, Trump, or Berny I have more faith these people will do something vs Obama doing nothing for all the years he was in office.
    well your statement shows me you do not really follow politics, and really follow other person(s) opinions of which has (a bias) the better argument in a given situation.

    Obama did alot of things -- one google search, on the first page said he changed 371 things THE List of 371 Obama Accomplishments so far, With Citations

    some changes that stood out by example
    1.By the end of his first year, the economy created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy by 3.5%. UPDATE 2-US stimulus added up to 2.1 mln jobs in Q4 2009-CBO | Reuters

    2.He created the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan and forced banks and other entities to pay back virtually all of the bailout money. http://1.usa.gov/eA5jVShttp://bit.ly/eCNrD6

    3.Signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, which helped millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures and provided $2.2 billion to combat homelessness and stabilize the housing market. http://bit.ly/eEpLFn

    4. Played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis. http://nyti.ms/gHlgp5

    5. Ordered all federal contractors to pay a minimum wage of $10.10 per hour, leading the way to a national increase. http://wapo.st/1iaU5kd

    6. As of January 2016, Unemployment drops below 5% for the first time in eight years and without a significant bubble. 4.9% Unemployment rate drops below 5%, reaches 8-year low | MSNBC

    7.Funded Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) with an extra $1.4 billion to improve veterans’ services. http://1.usa.gov/huhqfo

    only a few of his great other accomplishments.

    What do you mean by change? killing people because they follow a different belief system, or does not share the same opinion as you do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EddyNash View Post
    I repeat ANYONE IS BETTER THEN OBAMA. Its the debate between "Doing nothing and letting the country get worse" or electing someone new who might do something. We need CHANGE and Obama did not DELIVER! Be it Hillary, Trump, or Berny I have more faith these people will do something vs Obama doing nothing for all the years he was in office. I mean bush sent us to war but guess what? HE DID SHIT! What did Obama do but party and put his fat face on telivision? Anyone who gives a shit about America know that we need a president that is going to act not just talk about how great he is. Obama said he would end the war and never did. By the way if Obama was not such a bad president a Nazi Facist wouldnt look fantastic to the American people now would they?
    Obama delivered plenty of change. He used executive order more then most anyone before and spent us much further into debt. He didn't just sit around doing nothing he actively dug us into a hole that we've been chipping away at ever since FDR and digging at since Carter. Obama got out the backhoe though.

    He has been very active to employ his socialistic big government Liberty squashing drone striking agenda.

    I would much rather have a president that did nothing but veto spending, that would be ideal to me. Let congress go to war, let congress make the laws.

  7. #16

    Not remotely a fan of Obama, but I can't stand Hillary or Trump. I don't buy that he was the worst president ever, or even in the last twelve years, but I have real issues with some of what he's done. Still I imagine that either of the other two will fuck things up even worse, so I guess I would very grudgingly accept that were it an option.
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  8. #17

    Quote Originally Posted by EddyNash View Post
    NO NO NO! FUCKING NO! We do not need that shit stain as our emporor! Anyone is better then OBAMA, I do mean anyone. He flip flopped on practically every issue, sent more people to IRAQ after he said he would end the war, and years after they found the guy they were looking for we are still in IRAQ. Seriously WHY? What are we doing in other countries anymore? We are not gaining anything. If they really wanted to take over they would just blow up the country and start from scratch after every man, woman, child was dead. Thier efforts to reform is clearly not working is it? So this effort is futile. There will never be peace in the middle east, the reason being its the MIDDLE EAST! They choose to stay shitty and thats thier choice.
    It's called being apart of the Democratic Establishment. Obama flipped flopped on issues because he used the textbook tactic of in the primaries moving towards the left then coming back in the general, and moving even more "moderate" during his presidency. I don't think he has done everything wrong, we could have had someone worse; however, he's a corporatist and a coward when it comes to dealing with the right just like most of the democratic establishment. We have a real problem with finding a left in America (on an international scale both the Republican and Democratic parties are conservative).

    Don't expect anything less from Hillary. She's better than Trump, at least in my opinion, but I think she might even be worse in terms of being corporate and appeasing the right.


     
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