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This is a discussion on Super Common Typology Mistakes On The Internet within the Myers Briggs Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Yo So I've been around this forum and the internet in general recently, and I've found some common typing mistakes ...

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    Super Common Typology Mistakes On The Internet

    Yo
    So I've been around this forum and the internet in general recently, and I've found some common typing mistakes which loads of people - including some fairly reputable users - make. I know some of these are known mistakes, but there are some typing guesses on this forum which are made all the time. I'm not trying to insult or shame anyone, or call out any users in particular, but these are problems which I see on the site fairly regularly. If you want to note some of your own typing mistakes below, that's dope. Also, this isn't a thread about MBTI stereotypes (e.g. ENTJ's are always leaders) it's a thread about characteristics which are perceived to be associated with certain MBTI types or functions (e.g. people who dress well are probably ISFP). I'm aware that some of these will be typical of certain types, but that doesn't at all mean that there's a direct link. Connections between characteristics that some MBTI types typically possess and that MBTI type itself are correlation, not causation, so yeah, don't make that mistake etc etc.

    LIST OF TYPING DELUSIONS:
    -NT types are scientifically inclined. Having an interest in science means you're probably an NT
    -Being talented or intelligent means you're probably an N (this is admittedly a known problem)
    -If you dislike parties, you're an introvert. All extroverts love parties
    -Anyone who considers the future at all or makes plans for the future is an NJ type
    -Weird and eccentric people are always Ne-dominant
    -Being self-absorbed or narcissistic makes you an Fi-dom, or at least an xxFP
    -ISxJ types hate ideas, and anyone who has ideas cannot be an ISxJ
    -People with strong Fe have no feelings of their own, and anyone with individual feelings is an Fi user
    -Sad people are always Feelers, and usually Fi-dominant (or, for some reason, they're INTJ)
    -People of opposite types are bound to hate each other
    -In addition, if someone hates a certain type, they cannot be that type
    -Having an interest in music makes you an Fi-dom
    -If someone is popular, they're Extroverted and usually Se-dominant or Fe-dominant
    -It is possible, with great skill, to type a stranger within only a few minutes of meeting them
    -It is impossible under any circumstances to type someone who is not yourself. You cannot understand them.
    -People who love drama are ESFP, ESFJ or ENFJ
    -Lame INTx types are INTP. Cool INTx types are INTJ
    -All SJ types love rules, and all SP types are total mavericks who don't give a monkeys
    -People with left-wing views are usually NF. People with right-wing views are usually SJ.
    -Mean ExTP types are ESTP. Good-natured ExTP types are ENTP
    -Philosophers are always N-types
    -The inferior function of any type is more-or-less NEVER in use, unless under special circumstances
    -Laziness is a P-type thing. J-types are never lazy ever
    -Introversion and introspection are basically the same (this leads every I-type to type themselves as N too)
    -Remembering things is Si-type stuff and Ne-types have goldfish memory.
    -Standing out makes you an N-type (yeah, because all S-types are sheep)
    -People who talk or think a lot about family are almost always SJ types
    -Being friendly and enthusiastic means you use Fe, not Fi. Fi is always moody and never happy.
    -The Big Five factor "Openness" directly equates to MBTI "iNtuition"
    -People who make a lot of puns are NP types (weird, but a surprisingly common thing)
    -The INTJ is a special, limited edition type that only a hyper-genius could count as
    -People who listen to pop music are usually SP types. Classical music is an NJ thing.
    -People who possess villainous qualities are INTJ. A heroic INTJ is just an INFJ.
    -Sensing isn't a different type of perception from iNtuition, it's a worse and more superficial version of it
    -The scientific method is linked with Ti (in fact, I'd say the scientific method is quite Si, tbh)
    -All activists are Feelers and most of them are F-dominant
    -Every aspect of personality is covered in some way by the MBTI (it really isn't)
    -ISxJ types are noticeably boring and will never have something interesting to say
    -In addition, ENxP types are every color of the rainbow and will never be bored or boring
    -Being good at sports means you have strong Se
    -Having a good sense of style means you're an xSFP
    -With regard to Fi-doms, ISFP is a boring fashion nerd while INFP is a fascinating wizard
    -Any mention of power makes you a Te-dominant

    IN MUSIC:
    -Popstars who talk about love are Feelers (love is the most common theme in pop music anyway)
    -Rappers who talk about balling and money are Se-dominant (very common theme in rap music anyway)
    -Rappers that use wordplay are T-types, usually Ti-dom or NT
    -Lyrical content will show off every aspect of a musician's personality
    -The source material of a musician's work is related strongly to MBTI type
    -Feelers and Judgers are less likely to enjoy rap music than Thinkers and Perceivers
    -I've touched on this before, but "INTJ and INFJ must hate pop music"

    Also, a surprisingly big typing mistake which has largely gone unnoticed is the lack of distinction between Ti and Te when someone is being typed. People just tend to assume that anything to do with analysis, principles, objective data, organising, science, induction or deduction is related to Ti, while Te is just "power" and "making people do stuff". Organisation and focus on objective data is the realm of Te, not Ti. Ti is more orientated around analysis and free-floating principles. People need to stop typing others as Ti-dom without considering that they could use Te instead.

    Thanks for reading this, and please leave your own perceived typing mistakes below. Again, I'm not trying to criticise anyone or say that I know more about typology, they're just holes I feel like a lot of people fall into when attempting to type someone. Thanks
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    - Only intuitives like philosophy
    - ESTPs all want to get into your pants/have no self-control
    - Only sensors like/are good at sports
    - Judgers are super well organized all the time
    - Being an intuitive/introvert/perceiving/whatever makes someone inherently more intelligent
    - Every loud & annoying woman is an ESFJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDarthMoominKirby View Post
    -The scientific method is linked with Ti (in fact, I'd say the scientific method is quite Si, tbh)
    Really, isn't Si far too personalized for that. I mean, for some observations for sure, but as a method it thinking right. I could see all Te, Ti and Se involved though.

    Also, a surprisingly big typing mistake which has largely gone unnoticed is the lack of distinction between Ti and Te when someone is being typed. People just tend to assume that anything to do with analysis, principles, objective data, organising, science, induction or deduction is related to Ti, while Te is just "power" and "making people do stuff". Organisation and focus on objective data is the realm of Te, not Ti. Ti is more orientated around analysis and free-floating principles. People need to stop typing others as Ti-dom without considering that they could use Te instead.
    YES. Te thinks in terms of objects, and that probably includes both making judgements based on their qualities but also the way they interact. It's also the use and application of knowledge in its direct "wordly" context - whereas Ti first and foremost places raw data into their own system to perhaps figure the general principles out before applying them.
     

    Also how theory is always Ti... not necessarily so. Theory that describes a phenomena or developments of something could easily be created by Te. Ti would be more like... categorizations. Those aren't real in the sense that they do not exist, and everything is just drawing the line somewhere. Taxonomy. We can look at an animal see what it does, how it behaves, what its qualities and nature is like, what use it has for people - this would all be Te? Ti is when you take several of these animals, compare them to other animals - okay Ti decides, based on the differences between these two groups we can call them by different names - detaches them from the world to place them to an imaginary system. Ti also the criticism of these labels, systems and rules of categorization. This is a way to deepen our understanding, but it can also lead you astray if it detaches too much from reality.


    Sensing isn't a different type of perception from iNtuition, it's a worse and more superficial version of it
    Yeah, but this is kinda because sensing is equated with the 5 senses. Lol. It's quite rare when some description goes into more depth. But sensing is about enjoying experiences, gaining certainty through verifiable and reliable information from the environment... Se has a realistic approach to skills and interactions in the world, and Si can make life into art... and I'd say intuition is way more indirect perception, leads into lots of variables and uncertainties, misses out things too and might be way off because of that.

    Also quite interesting how intuition is seen as more detached from sensory experience and more oriented towards background processes, time, potential... when time can be sensed too: Humans Have a Lot More Than Five Senses

    Other than that, not much to add atm. Good observations.
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    People who make a lot of puns are NP types (weird, but a surprisingly common thing)
    My INTJ husband loves puns and keeps an ever-growing list of corny jokes on his phone...
    In addition, ENxP types are every color of the rainbow and will never be bored or boring
    ENFP; while it takes a while for me to get bored, it does indeed happen. I don't always talk much, so I can in fact be boring sometimes.

    Thanks for posting this - an interesting read, and covers a lot of the common assumptions. Stereotyping and deduction are two entirely different things, people...

    Another one that I see is the belief that all INTJs are cold-natured most of the time. They're only cold when they don't like/trust you, and they can seem cold when they're analyzing/processing something, or working on a project that they're absorbed in/needs to get done. INTJs can be very affectionate and personable when they're comfortable and with people they trust and/or love. Add on to that that some are more likely to come across as cold than others.

    Or that if someone's an ENFP, then it's going to be super obvious just from their physical appearance (similar to your comment about rainbows... "because aaaall EXFPs are flamboyant!"). Yes, I shamelessly dress like a freak sometimes, and yes, I look idiotically happy sometimes. The rest of the time? I'm dressed in olive drab and brown, with a resting face that looks like a serial killer's mugshot.
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    Additional typing mistakes:
    -Assuming Feelers are irrational (Jung himself denied that one)
    -Thinking that leaders, bosses and CEO's are ENTJ (or INTJ)
    -Writing off heroic ExxP characters as ENFP, even if they're Se-dom or ENTP
    -Thinking that ESxP types are better at/more interested in/more connected to sex and physical love
    -Assuming that the Big Five factor "Agreeableness" equates directly to MBTI "Feeling"
    -Typing someone as an Feeler because they talk about feelings at any point
    -Assuming that an interest in creation makes someone an N-dom
    -Assuming that two people of the same type must get along
    -The belief that every ESFJ is a bitchy housewife mother while every ENFJ is Martin Luther King Jr
    -Thinking that IxTJ types have no sense of humour
    -Typing every cynical or depressed ENxP as ENTP (remember that George Carlin was ENFP)
    -Trying to type toddlers or small children (this actually happens)
    -Connecting Enneagram with MBTI in basically any way is usually a mistake
    -Assuming that politicians must be ENxJ, left-wingers being ENFJ and right-wingers being ENTJ
    -Assuming that an emo or a goth is an ISFP, INFP or INFJ
    -Questioning your own type if you show a single characteristic of another type
    -Thinking that any nerd or geek is an INTP, INTJ, ISTJ or ENTP
    -Assuming that Extroverts are always loud and exaggerated
    -Associating career with MBTI type
    -Thinking that someone's an N-type just because they have dreams or aspirations
    -Assuming that awkwardness and aloofness is an Introvert thing (Extroverts can be awkward too)
    -Thinking that only an Si-type could excel at the subject History (I took it at high school - it's really a Ti thing)
    -Thinking that only an NF type could excel at the subject English (it is admittedly kind of an N-type subject, though)
    -Thinking that only an Extrovert could excel at Drama and theatre performance (it's especially associated with ESFP)
    -Assuming (due to type stereotypes) that unfriendly and mean-spirited people must be ISTP or ESTP

    Thanks for all the replies, guys. Keep 'em coming ayy
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    I expect people to be mistyped.

    It's not easy to type yourself or others at the beginning of knowing what MBTI is.

    I'm certain I'm typed correctly. ENTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisFergusonFl View Post
    I expect people to be mistyped.

    It's not easy to type yourself or others at the beginning of knowing what MBTI is.

    I'm certain I'm typed correctly. ENTJ.
    I understand that, but I'm not referring to common mistakes early on in the typing process. I'm talking about mistakes that even self-prescribed MBTI experts make. For me, it's always been helpful to start from a completely neutral point of view when typing someone, because that impartial approach means you're less likely to be mistyped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDarthMoominKirby View Post
    I understand that, but I'm not referring to common mistakes early on in the typing process. I'm talking about mistakes that even self-prescribed MBTI experts make. For me, it's always been helpful to start from a completely neutral point of view when typing someone, because that impartial approach means you're less likely to be mistyped.
    I see.

    Well all it really is communication.

    I don't even read the descriptions of types.

    Makes MBTI extremely confusing.

    I just know communication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordDarthMoominKirby View Post
    I understand that, but I'm not referring to common mistakes early on in the typing process. I'm talking about mistakes that even self-prescribed MBTI experts make. For me, it's always been helpful to start from a completely neutral point of view when typing someone, because that impartial approach means you're less likely to be mistyped.
    I see.

    Well all it really is is communication.

    I don't even read the descriptions of types.

    Makes MBTI extremely confusing.

    I just know communication.

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    The other one that bugs me is the assumption that just because I'm a "Feeler" I must not use my brain for anything except creative projects.

    Hogwash.

    I make brain-based over feeling/heart-based decisions all the time and I'm one of the first people to chime in with "Or don't - that's a terrible idea!" when someone says "Follow your heart!"

    Where that "feeling" line blurs for me is morality vs. cold logic. One's concept of morality is largely based on both feelings and logic (some are radically more one than the other though, depending on the basis for your philosophies), even if you have set principles to follow that have already been laid out, such as the Bible (I'm a Christian). So for example (potentially controversial example incoming; don't derail, just follow my point), if I were to get pregnant at a time when it wasn't convenient for me to have a child, the strictly "logical" thing for me to do would be to abort the baby. However, as far as I'm concerned, that's murder and that's wrong, so in this case morality > the easy "logical" solution. It's not a strictly feelings-based decision, because my morality is built on a combination of fact and principle (which is frequently interlocked with feelings). So in my case, brain > heart, but when moral principles come into play, morality > "cold" logic.


     
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