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This is a discussion on Energy-based people (who relies on internal feelings) and Emotions-based people within the Myers Briggs Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; You ought to read Michael Newton's books 'Journey of Souls' and Destiny of Souls.' I think you'll find it interesting....

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    You ought to read Michael Newton's books 'Journey of Souls' and Destiny of Souls.' I think you'll find it interesting.
    Last edited by Mammon; 04-11-2019 at 02:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mammon View Post
    You ought to read Michael Newton's books 'Journey of Souls' and Destiny of Souls.' I think you'll find it interesting.
    Thank you for he suggestion. Anybody interested in reading the book can find a PDF version at this link: https://www.bazaarmodel.net/ftp/Proj...neyofSouls.pdf. I like how the information presented by Michael Newton (about the afterlife, the soul, and Source) is consistent with information presented by Erin Pavlina, and Conversations with God author, Neale Donald Walsch.
    Last edited by Sparky; 04-13-2019 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    Thank you for he suggestion. You can find a PDF version of the book at this link: https://www.bazaarmodel.net/ftp/Proj...neyofSouls.pdf. I like how the information presented by Michael Newton about the afterlife, the soul, and Source to be consistent with information presented by Erin Pavlina, and Conversations with God author, Neale Donald Walsch.
    Wow thanks for the other recommendation! I will surely read it.

    Btw, Newton even mentioned the core lights - something which I have seen in my OBE almost 20 years ago but never found an answer for it on the internet until I read his books. I was pretty shocked to see him mention it so consistently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    In the previous post, I've mentioned sexual energy transmission, though really, it's what each Frequency Temperament prefers. It might actually be possible to define the temperament name with the bond-link, as follows:

    Energy-beings: bond through the heart, or Heart-meld
    Reptilian-beings: bond through the Ni-Se and Ne-Si, also the sex-organ, or the Sexorgan-meld
    Ascended-beings: bond through the brain or mind, or Mind-meld

    There are also people who are equally well traversed in all three areas, Heart, Sexorgan, and Mind, with seemingly no one thing dominating. On the one hand, there are the Sensors, and when the people are actually intuitives, one can call them walk-ins (until a better name can be thought of).

    In terms of Environment temperament, the Energy-beings have People-Bank-Law about equal in the mind or brain, though on the physical-body level, it's one dominating with a secondary. Reptilian beings have consistent brain-mind and body-physical Environment temperament (with one dominating, and a secondary one for both mind and body). Ascended beings have People-Bank-Law about equal in the body or physical, though for the brain-mind, it's one dominating and one secondary.
    So basically you're saying that within the group typically called "intuitive people" there are people that focus on one of three dimensions of psychology (see also https://www.simplypsychology.org/attitudes.html)?:
    • Conative/behavior focused ("Reptilian beings")
    • Cognitive/mentally focused ("Ascended beings")
    • Affective/emotionally focused ("Energy beings")


    If so, why this overly complex story? Which triggers a lot of "new age" alarms for me, and is likely to be ignored by many people because:
    • It's too complex to be trusted without solid research (you cannot explain this in 5 minutes to a random person, and that person then going "aha I get it")
    • For the complexity it has you want (IMO) some kind of validation based on some form psychometrics, i.e. you want it testable and the test to be valid (https://www.simplypsychology.org/validity.html)



    The KISS principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) would really help here IMO (if you want people to get what you're talking about)

    A small word of warning, you may be overly generalizing "sensors" into a stereotype, but I'm unsure because you mentioned them in only one post as far as I can tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    So basically you're saying that within the group typically called "intuitive people" there are people that focus on one of three dimensions of psychology (see also https://www.simplypsychology.org/attitudes.html)?:
    • Conative/behavior focused ("Reptilian beings")
    • Cognitive/mentally focused ("Ascended beings")
    • Affective/emotionally focused ("Energy beings")


    If so, why this overly complex story? Which triggers a lot of "new age" alarms for me, and is likely to be ignored by many people because:
    • It's too complex to be trusted without solid research (you cannot explain this in 5 minutes to a random person, and that person then going "aha I get it")
    • For the complexity it has you want (IMO) some kind of validation based on some form psychometrics, i.e. you want it testable and the test to be valid (https://www.simplypsychology.org/validity.html)



    The KISS principle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) would really help here IMO (if you want people to get what you're talking about)

    A small word of warning, you may be overly generalizing "sensors" into a stereotype, but I'm unsure because you mentioned them in only one post as far as I can tell.
    Thank you for the information, and as the article is fairly long (an hour worth of reading and thinking, which I look forward to later), I will say that the descriptions look about right:


    • Conative/behavior focused ("Reptilian beings") - "the goal of life is to reproduce" "think with their dicks"
    • Cognitive/mentally focused ("Ascended beings") - "everything is in the mind" "credibility must be based on established methods and standards"
    • Affective/emotionally focused ("Energy beings") - "heart is the seat of all creative processes" "between the mind and the hands is the heart"


    Even though I realize the existence of the Frequency Temperaments, there is still much to be learned about each one (like how Environment Temperament presents differently or similarly in their mind and body), in regards to developing a test, though a simple question would be:

    Do you pathically connect with the mind, heart, or the sexorgan?

    If the person answers mind, then he's likely Ascended (similarly, heart for Energy, and sexorgan for Reptilian).

    Other than this, visual typing will work, as demonstrated in the picture diagrams. Please ignore some of the ramblings I did in the earlier posts.
    Last edited by Sparky; 04-13-2019 at 01:15 PM.

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    @Sparky
    I'm a mind first person, but if that means I should call myself an ascended being, I don't know
    Both energy being and ascended being sound like labels invented to make people feel good about themselves, whereas reptilian seems like the "other" bucket that doesn't hold a positive meaning.

    Visual typing, which post was that? (I just scanned the topic and must have missed that)
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    In terms of mind-meld, heart-meld, and sexorgan-meld, I feel like the three Frequency Temperaments also exhibit different interests about a person:

    Ascended beings often look up to people's credations (college degrees, certificates), careers (how lucrative it is), and skills (what can the person do better than others)

    Energy beings often look up to people's personality (outgoing, shy), personal qualities (honesty, benevolence), and personal characteristics (hobbies, likes)

    Reptilian beings often look up to people's wealth (how much resources they have), power (how much control they have over others), and prestige (if their family is of royal lineage, good reputation, social standing)


    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    @Sparky
    I'm a mind first person, but if that means I should call myself an ascended being, I don't know
    Both energy being and ascended being sound like labels invented to make people feel good about themselves, whereas reptilian seems like the "other" bucket that doesn't hold a positive meaning.

    Visual typing, which post was that? (I just scanned the topic and must have missed that)
    It's great to hear you can self-identify as being an Ascended being. I don't have a post that talks about what you can expect when visual typing, so I mostly share pictures in the form of diagrams, to provide examples of Energy (Heart-meld), Reptilian (Sexorgan-meld) and Ascended beings (Mind-meld). You can find a diagram on post 19 of this thread: https://www.personalitycafe.com/myer...l#post43151685
    The terms Ascended, Energy, and Reptilian are more unique to what's being described. Conative-Behavioral, Cognitive-Mental, and Affective-Emotional are also great terms, though people often associate other meanings with them, and those terms are loaded or often used to describe other things as well.

    People often associate Reptilian as people greedy for power-money, and part of a conspiracy to "take over the world", as preached by David Icke, though if you like dinosaurs, you do appreciate them as being the direct descendants of some of Earth's most ancient lineages.
    Last edited by Sparky; 04-14-2019 at 10:34 PM.
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    @Sparky

    I just wanted to say that many of your recent posts seem of the introverted intuition type, which means they are based on ideas and connections between ideas that make sense in your head, but in raw form are hard, if not impossible, for most other people to understand.

    I don't know if this is what you want for yourself, but few people will take you seriously this way, simply because they don't understand you're trying to communicate.

    What's your reason for writing these posts if I may ask?
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    @Sparky

    I just wanted to say that many of your recent posts seem of the introverted intuition type, which means they are based on ideas and connections between ideas that make sense in your head, but in raw form are hard, if not impossible, for most other people to understand.

    I don't know if this is what you want for yourself, but few people will take you seriously this way, simply because they don't understand you're trying to communicate.

    What's your reason for writing these posts if I may ask?
    Thank you for your interest. These insights into the temperaments come from observations of MBTI in people, and noticing how Four Temperaments and love languages can also be observed, which led to the other temperaments, like Political Temperaments, Growth Temperaments, and Environment Temperaments.

    At first, I just wanted to show others how to type people using the visual method, by giving examples. I also want them to see the different variations that exist within a type, which led me to conclude that more is going on than four letters, and the effects of environmental upbringing. I have rambled much in the first couple of posts of this thread, though don't want to make a new thread (which might actually be a better idea). The idea behind the Frequency Temperaments is simple, that people have a preference of connecting either with their minds, heart, or sexorgan, which is demonstrated in the diagrams (other factors, such as how their mind and body differ in the Environment Temperaments, will need an understanding of the Environment Temperaments first). If I can get at least three other people to wonder, ponder, and consider the MBTI+ system, that would mean a lot.
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    I feel like for Ascended beings, because their mind has one primary one secondary in Environment Temperament, their actions, or the way they move (and fight, as in a video game), will be the same as their primary-secondary. For Energy beings, because their mind is equally represented in the Environment Temperament, their movement will be balanced-environment-temperament. Additionally, the artwork produced by Ascended beings will be balanced-environment-temperament, just like how they look facially, while the artwork for Energy beings will be primary-secondary. For example, if the Energy being is Bank-primary People-secondary, then his movement will be People-Bank-Law balanced, though his artwork will exhibit the quality for Bank-primary People-secondary. Similarly, for Ascended beings, if his mind is Bank-primary People-secondary, then his movement will be Bank-primary People-secondary, though his artwork will be People-Bank-Law balanced.


     
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