Are INTJs really a "controversial" type? If so, why/how?

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    Are INTJs really a "controversial" type? If so, why/how?

    What is meant when people say INTJs are one of the most controversial types? What about us makes us inherently controversial? Do you think it's true? Explain.



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    Seems like a lot of assholes type themselves INTJ, then double down/wallow in their assholism because they're "just being an INTJ." So there's something about the type that attracts assholes (they certainly aren't all INTJs) as well as a near-reverence from other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesh Malachi Modeste View Post
    Seems like a lot of assholes type themselves INTJ, then double down/wallow in their assholism because they're "just being an INTJ." So there's something about the type that attracts assholes (they certainly aren't all INTJs) as well as a near-reverence from other people.
    Interesting observation, how would you define "assholes" in this particular case, as the word it's self is often quite emotionally charged and generally carries a degree of subjectivity to it.

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    Nope.
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    ISFJ

    What do you mean by 'controversial'?

    I work with an INTJ and she's very competent, but very serious and work-focused. She doesn't engage in small talk at all. It's been a very different experience for me.
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    Controversial? I suppose that depends on who you're talking to.
    But I guess since most of the population is Fe they can be considered controversial because INTJ's are non conformists and don't do things simply because everyone else is doing it/ because it's best for everyone else(which is what Fe is).
    INTJ's bow down to no one so that can make them a bit unsettling/ make them appear arrogant( which is not the case)

    Since I share the same functions as INTJ but just in different order, I don't find them controversial because a lot of what they think/do is relate able. But to the majority of the population I could see how they could be perceived that way.

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    Honestly, I can't think of anything "controversial" about INTJ's. Maybe their sometimes dark sense of humor? That's not really controversial though, more just potentially upsetting to very sensitive people.

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    ISTP

    "Types" can't be controversial. Your actions can be. Those I've judged to be INTJs are the least controversial humans I've seen. I should stress my view on what's controversial probably differs a lot from your idea on what's controversial.

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    There's a huge gap I've found between online INTJ stereotypes/narratives and what actual INTJ are actually like when you talk to them in person. One would think, reading type descriptions, INTJ are somewhere between mystical, magical fortune tellers, and hard core independent uber-competent and successful genius. I think most authentic INTJ (and sane others) know these descriptions have taken a germ of truth, cloaked it with hyper flattery, and blown a ton of hot air into it.

    There are a lot of INTJ's - a lot more than people here may imagine - who are quite passive people with average personal lives and careers. They will strike you as normal, adjusted people when you speak to them, and that is what they are. Some of them are super smart, and some are of average intelligence. Some of them work or study at prestigious places, others couldn't care less and just want to do what they enjoy. Some of them are super pushy and assertive, others are passive and inactive to the point that being ambitious is a future-centric ideal at best. Some are mean and rude, others are really nice people. Some appear emotionless, others cry, crack jokes, laugh, and smile all the time (just not with a ton of raw emotion and passion behind it).

    I'll be candid and say that I don't think many of the INTJ who cause outrage online are typed correctly. Our type has a tendency to flee or withdraw from heavily contentious or dramatic circumstances rather than participate. Some INTJ can be kind of sneaky, and say outrageous and/or stupid things that completely depart from social norms without realizing how others are taking it - but I haven't really seen a lot of that online to be honest. Most INTJ controversy on this forum comes from INTJ who think they're right and refuse to concede to a differing opinion without endlessly poking holes.

    The real issue is that in MBTI there is nothing to hard stop anyone from being a certain type. Those discussions lead to discussions on cognitive functions, enneagram, etc and peoples' eyes glaze over.
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    Controversial just for the sake of being controversial? No. Controversial in order to open other people's eyes about the bullshit common sense can be sometimes? Yes. Nothing makes me cringe more than talk to someone, ask them what their opinion is about a political matter, and then hear the SAME copy/paste response I heard on the television, on by someone else's mouth. It's like they carry around a pack of phrases saying "ready to use" -- there isn't really a thought process behind them, no reflection at all.

    Side Note: Are you SURE you are not posting too many threads about INTJs outside of the INTJ zone?
    Last edited by The Conundrum; 09-12-2018 at 03:34 PM.


     

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