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    INFJ - The Protectors

    Post a (sincere) rant that sounds odd coming from your type

    Doesn't necessarily have to be a rant, just any opinion you have that people normally wouldn't expect from your type. I'll go first. This is going to be a bit hyperbolic by the way, so don't take it too seriously.



    I'm not sure how many other INTPs feel this way, but I really hate nerd culture. As much as I love comics, books, and a few other nerdy things, internet nerd culture is one of my least favorite things about Gen-Y. I never spent much time hanging out with the stereotypical frat boys/popular students but I would much rather hang out with them than the typical ironic T-shirt wearing blow-hard that posts videos on YouTube to show everyone how angry they are about people not using your/you're correctly. It's like they think that their pedantry elevates them above the masses somehow. It really is one of the dumbest forms of elitism imaginable.

    Nerd culture also sucks because of the inclination to continuously to prove that nerds are "the good guys." This results in parroting the ethical values of their time despite how much they like to think of themselves as "free thinkers." This is shown in how the stereotypical Gen-X nerd prided themselves on never drinking, having promiscuous sex, or doing drugs. Now that societal values have changed, typical Millennial "nerds" like to share Upworthy videos hoping their mildly attractive feminist female friends will notice how compassionate and progressive they are. I get it, you're all exemplary and compassionate human beings despite your social obliviousness. Take your medal and shut up already.

    Throw atheism into the mix, and they get even more obnoxious. The most annoying thing about religious demonstrations is not the crap the fundamentalists spew, but the unfunny and overused jokes that non-religious people will shout out in an attempt to counter-protest. "I'll get on my knees for Jesus! hur hur." Shut up. Using the most trite forms blasphemy imaginable against radical fringe groups that the majority of your country/community hates anyways does not make you some sort of rebel or iconoclast.

    Lastly, no I am not going to watch Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I'm sure it was really hilarious movie at one point in time. It doesn't matter though, its ruined. Its ruined by people who quoted it every time they wanted to be funny yet didn't have any jokes of their own so had to borrow them from their favorite movie instead.
    Last edited by originalsin; 09-28-2014 at 09:14 AM.
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    INTP - The Thinkers


    Ok. Sorry ISTPs, but really, what is up with us and power tools? Seriously.

    Stereotypically we're the mechanics, the craftsmen, the engineers - but really, I think that's kind of....boring. I could think of a million better things to do with one's time than standing over an engine, or carving wood :/

    I've seen that many ISTPs actually know quite a lot about mechanical systems, but we never are talked about for being decent at anything else. (Interest wise I am apparently not an ISTP)

    For example, I like poetry like NFs, and being stupidly impulsive like Se-doms. But mechanical systems? - hell nah. I feel (yes, feel) that ISTPs actually have some odd and unusual view points when we actually apply Ti-Se to fields that don't usually draw Ti-Se.

    ISTP's stereotype should consist of more than grouchy old man mechanic and bad-ass assassin.

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    I still don't get what they mean by Introverted Intuition being "psychics". I can't read the future; I might be able to know what's predictable, but this world can be very unpredictable at times and that's both entertaining and upsetting.

    My head's always in the clouds too much to be considered organized, though I would like things to be neat and orderly. I have a bad sense of time because of this as well.

    I think they exaggerate our abilities a little too much... Am I the only INFJ that thinks this way?
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    @originalsin
    I mostly agree. I think nerd culture started out as quirky people being proud of their quirky interests, but it quickly morphed into what I'd describe as: People being incredibly impressed with themselves for liking very likable things. Best example: Whovians.
    Also, big atheist here. Still get really annoyed by one-liners that get repeated over and over again, like "sky fairy" or "zombie Jesus." I just don't get the point of talking this way since it's more likely to make the other side believe more strongly. I mean, who has ever changed sides in a debate because they felt insulted.

    About feminist guys: how do you know they're not sincere? Men are a very important ally to feminism and it kind of sucks when they can't do that without it being assumed that it's just to get laid more.

    You should watch Monty Python's Meaning of Life. Much less watched and less quoted and, imo, way funnier.

    I don't have a rant...more like a pet peeve: Most INTPs aren't like this, but there are always a few that come around every so often and try to INTP the shit out of everyone over every little thing.
    "Well your point can't possibly be true because I'm going to take your words 100% literally and ignore the connotative meanings that everyone else here immediately understands. Their brains aren't as sophisticated as mine." *continues to nitpick at unimportant parts of the argument, as if purposely trying to misunderstand everyone to feel superior.
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    INFJ - The Protectors

    My rants would be ban worthy, but I agree with your post OP, 100%.

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    INTPs I understand my brethren, life is different for us. But the why overdo it? Why do you need to try to prove a point to everyone else about it? That picture of Einstein wearing women's shoes, that's what I'm talking about. We know you're an individualist, we know you're different, we know that you don't give a crap if you wear those shoes. But why rub it in everyone's face? I'd say wear pajamas, don't buy a dress just to prove that you don't care about societal norms. You know that wearing a dress is less comfortable don't you? Why ignore it that just to prove a point to the people whose norms you don't even care about? It's pointless. It's not all INTPs who may do this but these things may happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PallasAthena View Post
    @originalsin
    I mostly agree. I think nerd culture started out as quirky people being proud of their quirky interests, but it quickly morphed into what I'd describe as: People being incredibly impressed with themselves for liking very likable things. Best example: Whovians.
    Also, big atheist here. Still get really annoyed by one-liners that get repeated over and over again, like "sky fairy" or "zombie Jesus." I just don't get the point of talking this way since it's more likely to make the other side believe more strongly. I mean, who has ever changed sides in a debate because they felt insulted.

    About feminist guys: how do you know they're not sincere? Men are a very important ally to feminism and it kind of sucks when they can't do that without it being assumed that it's just to get laid more.

    You should watch Monty Python's Meaning of Life. Much less watched and less quoted and, imo, way funnier.

    I don't have a rant...more like a pet peeve: Most INTPs aren't like this, but there are always a few that come around every so often and try to INTP the shit out of everyone over every little thing.
    "Well your point can't possibly be true because I'm going to take your words 100% literally and ignore the connotative meanings that everyone else here immediately understands. Their brains aren't as sophisticated as mine." *continues to nitpick at unimportant parts of the argument, as if purposely trying to misunderstand everyone to feel superior.
    On your pet peeve, I think it's sometimes funny though because when you read those description saying that INTPs are hairsplitting nit-pickers in debate, you don't really notice it until either you've debated one or someone has told you that you're doing it. But I'm more tolerant toward it because sometimes I do it myself. It does feel more natural than shooting out a more exaggerated and imprecise statement out there. I've done that but I always regret that someone might realize what I said wasn't as obvious as I made it sound in one sentence without the little nuances of meaning. If it's excessive it can be annoying but usually I'd tolerate it and try to get on that level instead of saying "you don't even understand my argument". I would rather get on that level and answer those questions.
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    INTP - The Thinkers

    Quote Originally Posted by Grandmaster Yoda View Post
    On your pet peeve, I think it's sometimes funny though because when you read those description saying that INTPs are hairsplitting nit-pickers in debate, you don't really notice it until either you've debated one or someone has told you that you're doing it. But I'm more tolerant toward it because sometimes I do it myself. It does feel more natural than shooting out a more exaggerated and imprecise statement out there. I've done that but I always regret that someone might realize what I said wasn't as obvious as I made it sound in one sentence without the little nuances of meaning. If it's excessive it can be annoying but usually I'd tolerate it and try to get on that level instead of saying "you don't even understand my argument". I would rather get on that level and answer those questions.
    For sure. I've done it to an extent as well and I'm usually fine with it when arguing with other INTPs. But every now and then you get that one that's going overboard trying to win an argument on an unnecessarily technical technicality. I split hairs when I genuinely want to understand the concept/debate, but I've seen others split hairs just for the sake of showing off their hair-splitting abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PallasAthena View Post
    For sure. I've done it to an extent as well and I'm usually fine with it when arguing with other INTPs. But every now and then you get that one that's going overboard trying to win an argument on an unnecessarily technical technicality. I split hairs when I genuinely want to understand the concept/debate, but I've seen others split hairs just for the sake of showing off their hair-splitting abilities.
    Now, how exactly do you know why they are hairsplitting from your own perspective and without even asking them why they do it? Ah it's good, you don't have to answer that.

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    ESTP - The Doers

    My friends in my dorm building gotta accept the fact that I need sufficient alone time. If I would rather spend the night in my room rather than the common room with everyone else, it doesn't mean I'm sick or upset, I just need time for myself and my thoughts. Although I love being the center of attention at parties and other social gatherings, I also prefer to avoid human contact a few nights a week.

    Another thing - offensive jokes about race and other people's cultures aren't funny. Period. Neither are jokes about women or rape. I can take some jokes pretty far and come off as blunt or offensive, but there are some topics I avoid for the sake of human decency.
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