Why does MBTI only allow for E/I and not A for Ambiversion?

Why does MBTI only allow for E/I and not A for Ambiversion?

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This is a discussion on Why does MBTI only allow for E/I and not A for Ambiversion? within the Myers Briggs Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Firstly, my MBTI is categorised as ENTJ and, after much deduction, I am pleased to say I do belong to ...

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Why does MBTI only allow for E/I and not A for Ambiversion?

    Firstly, my MBTI is categorised as ENTJ and, after much deduction, I am pleased to say I do belong to the small number of ENTJs there are. I am proud of my uniqueness.

    But, also, I would not describe myself as being a full extroverted person. An Extrovert has many people they consider friends whereas I have few I consider real friends.

    The Extrovert will always always be talking yet I favour speaking when it is really only required or in some way valuable. I do not like those whom speak because they must but rather prefer people who speak when they have something to say.

    With my friends in our group, I am almost always the pivotal member - people always speak to me and I notice I get a disproportionate amount of eye contact from my friends when we speak in our group but, when it comes to new groups of complete strangers, I prefer to hold back and assess before going in whereas the Extrovert traditionally just gets in there at the earliest possible opportunity.

    Though I should note that, given my socioeconomic status, I more often than not find myself with groups of people who are not considered intellectual and thus they talk about complete nonsense (celebrities, football, soap dramas etc) and I am sorry, but I would rather kill myself than sit through a Coronation Street omnibus.

    Despite holding off from group discussions at the first moment and despite not being the first to engage with a large group, I do however love to lead groups of people and love to give presentations to large groups. The most I've given to at once was around 30-40 and loved it. Some of my 75%+ E Friends however hate that idea.

    Therefore I consider myself an Ambivert and thus feel that my MBTI type of ENTJ is somewhat wrong - that rather I should be an ANTJ.

    I would describe myself as 55% E.

    Why is A not considered for in MBTI? What would be its implications? I personally feel the difference between an ENTJ like myself at 55% E would be enormously different between a 80%+ E.

    Thoughts?



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    ENFP - The Inspirers

    I think you might be confusing the commonly held definition of extroversion with the MBTI definition of extroversion, which is very different.

    MBTI extroverts will not necessarily always be talking, nor will they necessarily have many people they consider to be true friends.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Quote Originally Posted by vivacissimamente View Post
    I think you might be confusing the commonly held definition of extroversion with the MBTI definition of extroversion, which is very different.

    MBTI extroverts will not necessarily always be talking, nor will they necessarily have many people they consider to be true friends.
    Ok - can you elaborate then a bit further on exactly what the difference between common assumptions and MBTI definitions of Extroversion would be?

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    INFP - The Idealists

    That would mean you are neither J nor P either.

    So you'd be ANT

    :)

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    INTP - The Thinkers

    A as an MBTI letter would become the attitude of the dominant function. But there are no "ambiverted" functions. A couple of us had tried this on other boards some time ago, but it doesn't work.

    So an ambivert will be someone whose social expressiveness is moderate, but there will still be at least a slight preference for E or I in the dominant function.
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    Your dominant function will be either introverted or extroverted and your auxiliary will be the opposite (introversion or extroversion). You use both functions and may use the auxiliary function often or have it well-developed, but we all have both introversion and introversion in us. The I and E just say which direction our dominant function sways.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    Ok all - thanks for clearing that up.

    ..... I still maintain I'm an ANT(where J may/may not be applicable!)

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    INFP - The Idealists

    Quote Originally Posted by pwiloson View Post
    Ok all - thanks for clearing that up.

    ..... I still maintain I'm an ANT(where J may/may not be applicable!)
    Haha, I'm so close to the middle that, when something somewhat dramatic, good or bad, happens in my life, I can easily switch to an EP rather than IJ.

    I am currently looking at it like a system of pressures.

    I have 10% more pressure on my intraverted side right now, so those are where my decisions are being based from, however, since there is also pressure from the other side, 40%, I am keenly aware of its presence and possible options.

    I am pretty sure we can never be in the middle at one moment, due to arguments on focus and perception at the same time, but within a time period of say a day, or week, I certainly think it is possible to use both evenly and equally.

    ENTJ's are so fun when we are learning together haha.

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    ENTP - The Visionaries

    Whether or not you are socially introverted/extroverted/ambiverted has nothing to do with your Meyers Brig type. I/E only tells whether your primary focus is internal or external. If you're an ENTJ, you should have a primary focus on external judging using your Te. If you're an INTJ, your primary focus will be Ni, introverted intuiting. When your Te and Ni are equally developed, or when the secondary function starts to override the primary, you might feel that you have both internal and external focus. The real tell lies in how you think. If your main focus lies in defining external logic (Te) then by default you are extroverted, regardless of how social you are.

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    ENTJ - The Executives

    @Souled In

    I don't really try to type others to know when I'm around another type... but I think our N could help us learn in a way the S types would find mind boggling...

    @hziegel

    Thanks for clearing that up - that helped me to understand a bit better.
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