I can't deal with all of the arguments on here. It makes me want to cry

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    I can't deal with all of the arguments on here. It makes me want to cry

    People on here attack my homeland...and I can't defend them. Trying would be pointless and a waste of time. They are so set in their ways of thought that any attempt to defend my homeland would be met with calls of not caring about human rights and stuff.

    I want to defend it so bad but I know that doing so will just get me hated on this forum, and will win me only enemies, no friends.

    I can't deal with politics. They just hurt me too much because I can do nothing to change people's opinion of my home. A country I could get citizenship to in less than 3 months if I chose to.

    I just can't deal with it. I can't deal with what I feel like is obvious (though is not to some people and maybe I'm wrong about) and not being able to defend it because I don't feel like getting into a conflict that is unwinnable for me because people don't want to have their minds changed

    It's like people like to sit and bicker for hours on end instead of working towards a solution. I just can't deal with it. Why is there so much fucking hatred. Why can't people just get along. I know I used to get involved with the political threads but I realized it's not worth it.
    Last edited by Dr Whorsey; 08-04-2019 at 10:20 PM.
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    Where is your homeland? What are some of the things you like about it that you wish others could see?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntide View Post
    Where is your homeland? What are some of the things you like about it that you wish others could see?
    I'm afraid to even go into it on here...for some people, it seems even the name makes them angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEquine View Post
    I'm afraid to even go into it on here...for some people, it seems even the name makes them angry.
    Well, if so much as seeing the name of a place makes them angry, they sound petty and close-minded. I understand though. I avoid certain political and debate topics that are quite personal to me like the plague. At some point I realized that it was causing me excessive stress to the point that it was negatively interfering with my everyday life. I appreciate differing points of view when they are eloquent, respectful, and well-spoken; however, I've since learned that most people on the internet are none of those 3 things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntide View Post
    Well, if so much as seeing the name of a place makes them angry, they sound petty and close-minded. I understand though. I avoid certain political and debate topics that are quite personal to me like the plague. At some point I realized that it was causing me excessive stress to the point that it was negatively interfering with my everyday life. I appreciate differing points of view when they are eloquent, respectful, and well-spoken; however, I've since learned that most people on the internet are none of those 3 things.
    Most people are not eloquent, respectful, or willing to have their mind. It affects me very negatively.

    It feels so awful to want to defend my people but not have the fucking balls to do it because I'm too afraid of having people mad at me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEquine View Post
    Most people are not eloquent, respectful, or willing to have their mind. It affects me very negatively.

    It feels so awful to want to defend my people but not have the fucking balls to do it because I'm too afraid of having people mad at me.
    Sometimes it isn't about "lacking the balls," but needing a satisfactory break. Too much negativity becomes overwhelming. I would recommend taking a step back for a while to replenish your zen before trying to step back into the arena. At least in my case, I have noticed that reserving my "debate" energy for the places that need it the most works out the best. For example, you can observe that some people just straight up aren't even worth engaging because they're obvious trolls who only want to get a rise out of you and not actually have a real conversation. Save your time and energy there, and then you'll have it for the times when you see someone who might actually be willing to listen. Chances are the latter kind of person won't be angry at you anyway. (Though sometimes I feel like an attack on my opinions is an attack on my self, and it's been difficult to separate the two sometimes, but it's a learned skill.) Hopefully that is helpful at all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEquine View Post
    People on here attack my homeland...and I can't defend them. Trying would be pointless and a waste of time. They are so set in their ways of thought that any attempt to defend my homeland would be met with calls of not caring about human rights and stuff.
    Perhaps the best thing to do is not get involved in such threads? Why engage in discussions you know are pointless and a waste of time? There's nothing wrong with not wanting to deal with controversial debates on the Internet, especially if it's going to have a negative impact on your health/sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntide View Post
    Sometimes it isn't about "lacking the balls," but needing a satisfactory break. Too much negativity becomes overwhelming. I would recommend taking a step back for a while to replenish your zen before trying to step back into the arena. At least in my case, I have noticed that reserving my "debate" energy for the places that need it the most works out the best. For example, you can observe that some people just straight up aren't even worth engaging because they're obvious trolls who only want to get a rise out of you and not actually have a real conversation. Save your time and energy there, and then you'll have it for the times when you see someone who might actually be willing to listen. Chances are the latter kind of person won't be angry at you anyway. (Though sometimes I feel like an attack on my opinions is an attack on my self, and it's been difficult to separate the two sometimes, but it's a learned skill.) Hopefully that is helpful at all!
    It's all negativity. It's the same reason I don't watch the news. They feed off the negativity and spread it out by satellite and fiber optics...I can't stand it. Why can't they show something positive for once?

    It's sad because I don't think these people are trolls. I think they're serious. That's the worst part.

    I too feel like an attack on my opinions can be an attack on myself, sometimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by flamesabers View Post
    Perhaps the best thing to do is not get involved in such threads? Why engage in discussions you know are pointless and a waste of time? There's nothing wrong with not wanting to deal with controversial debates on the Internet, especially if it's going to have a negative impact on your health/sanity.
    I don't. It's just that on TapATalk, there's no way to ignore subforums, so I'll see threads talking about the stuff when I look in unread and there's simply no way to avoid them. I wish I could. I love the people on here and my only gripe is there's no fucking way to just block the politics and debate forum. :(

    Another issue is I feel I have a duty to defend my people, but I simply don't have the mental willpower to do so.
    Last edited by Dr Whorsey; 08-05-2019 at 12:24 AM.
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    ISTP

    Same shit has been going on now where I live. News is all over the goddamn place 24/7. Everyone is talking about it even if you are not interested. The atmosphere is toxic to say the least.

    Everyone goes batshit crazy with their ideologies banging on their freedoms and rights I am so tired of this crap.

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    Luckily for me, not too many people talk in a repulsively horrid manner about my home planet. If they did, I'd turn them into powder and snort them.
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