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This is a discussion on Increasing IQ Level - Do you think it is possible? within the NT's Temperament Forum- The Intellects forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; The first time I took an IQ test I was about 14 years old and I scored a 122, give ...

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Increasing IQ Level - Do you think it is possible?

    The first time I took an IQ test I was about 14 years old and I scored a 122, give or take a couple points. I scored a 640 on the math portion of my SAT when I was about 16. I'm stating these just for measurable purposes. My problem when I was younger was I could not answer the most complex questions, I always got confused while trying to answer the hardest questions and got stuck.

    Now, at age 18, my IQ has gone from a 122 to a solid 145. You may think that number is outrageous, which it is, but I was tested at that. My math SAT score went from a 640 to a 800. When I approached old questions that used to stump me because I simply could not make any sense of it were seen in an entirely new light. Suddenly, the solution just became crystal clear. Complex problems were no longer an issue for me randomly. Everything just started becoming more clear, and everything just started making more sense.

    The main thing that improved my IQ was constantly being exposed to complex information, and having someone with a high IQ explain it to me. The way they explained things changed my style of thought. Essentially, I was mimicking them in a "fake it til you make it" style. I now would break complex information into smaller pieces, and then connect them altogether at the end to form a solution. Not only that, but I focused on developing one of my personality functions (Ni) by simply understanding it more but that's an entirely different subject. I also stopped thinking out loud and pausing my thought process to make sure everything makes sense, instead I just followed my gut on all decisions. I can no longer explain most of my reasoning to someone else, it usually takes me a while to backtrack my thought process. I USED to explain my thought process to myself, which ended up in just me getting confused in the middle of problem solving so I stopped doing that.

    Now, the argument here could be that my IQ did not increase, but the innate IQ I possess revealed itself because I altered my mindset. However, I don't understand how the change could be so drastic in just 2 years. Something had to improve it.
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    Unknown Personality

    Yes thanks to recent developments

    You can increase your intelligence: 5 ways to maximize your cognitive potential - Scientific American Blog Network

    Many will rush to state that IQ is meaningless despite evidence that income is correlated to the Intelligence Quotient The incredible correlation between IQ & income | Pumpkin Person. With extreme high IQ individuals, I theorize that other characteristics (EQ, determination, etc.) need to be strengthen as well so their intelligence can be honed into productive channels (inventing, conducting research).

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by Grandalf View Post
    Yes thanks to recent developments

    You can increase your intelligence: 5 ways to maximize your cognitive potential - Scientific American Blog Network

    Many will rush to state that IQ is meaningless despite evidence that income is correlated to the Intelligence Quotient The incredible correlation between IQ & income | Pumpkin Person. With extreme high IQ individuals, I theorize that other characteristics (EQ, determination, etc.) need to be strengthen as well so their intelligence can be honed into productive channels (inventing, conducting research).
    I think IQ certainly means something. With that power to solve problems, imagine the things you can invent.
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    Not an NT, but someone who jumps at any article about increasing intelligence. :p

    I can never find a straight answer: some say yes, it can change. Others say it's fixed at birth - one major argument for it being fixed is that someone born mentally deficient cannot become average, let alone above that. Also, consider the simple fact that intelligence is genetic. You can improve performance, but not raw ability.

    The effects of environment are hardly to be underestimated though: I experienced a similar SAT score improvement after switching to a better school; my thinking got several times more intricate and 'deep' when I started frequenting PerC and certain behaviors are just habit now. However, I'm a little skeptical of what this means. I see my newfound depth of thought as artificial, the scores were mere coincidence. In your case, you also saw improvements to IQ score, over one standard deviation. I'm inclined to think that was a problem of the test, or the first attempt was an off day.

    Trust me, I wish increasing IQ was a thing - I'd be all over that.

    Oh, and @Grandalf , the n-back test was debunked. It doesn't do crap except make you good at the n-back test.
    Last edited by ScientiaOmnisEst; 03-09-2016 at 04:49 PM.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ScientiaOmnisEst View Post
    Not an NT, but someone who jumps at any article about increasing intelligence. :p

    I can never find a straight answer: some say yes, it can change. Others say it's fixed at birth - one major argument for it being fixed is that someone born mentally deficient cannot become average, let alone above that. Also, consider the simple fact that intelligence is genetic. You can improve performance, but not raw ability.

    The effects of environment are hardly to be underestimated though: I experienced a similar SAT score improvement after switching to a better school; my thinking got several times more intricate and 'deep' when I started frequenting PerC and certain behaviors are just habit now. However, I'm a little skeptical of what this means. I see my newfound depth of thought as artificial, the scores were mere coincidence. In your case, you also saw improvements to IQ score, over one standard deviation. I'm inclined to think that was a problem of the test, or the first attempt was an off day.

    Trust me, I wish increasing IQ was a thing - I'd be all over that.

    Oh, and @Grandalf , the n-back test was debunked. It doesn't do crap except make you good at the n-back test.
    You are certainly correct. I think my IQ improved because I improved my style of thought, I think prior to my high results I was not performing to the best of my ability due to errors in my thought process. However, after correcting them, I am scoring near my full potential now.

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    ISFJ

    teach me your ways
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    We're not fully developed at 16. I'd wait until 20 or so before settling for a benchmark.
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    Yes. If you use your brain, you're increasing and strengthening the connections between your neurons, thus your brain will work faster to solve similar problems. Is there an innate ability to better use your brain? Yes, but it doesn't mean you can't improve it. Unless there's a really good reason for impeding said growth (some kind of disease/condition/birth defect).
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    Transorbital lobotomies should work just fine for that.
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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ISFJ View Post
    teach me your ways
    Cool username, just like mine lol. I think the best piece of advice I can give is look up explanations of IQ questions. You can start to mimic their thought process until it is so ingrained that you naturally think that way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin the Dendroid View Post
    We're not fully developed at 16. I'd wait until 20 or so before settling for a benchmark.
    That's interesting. That means I can continue to develop, which is just awesome.


    Quote Originally Posted by Punniez View Post
    Yes. If you use your brain, you're increasing and strengthening the connections between your neurons, thus your brain will work faster to solve similar problems. Is there an innate ability to better use your brain? Yes, but it doesn't mean you can't improve it. Unless there's a really good reason for impeding said growth (some kind of disease/condition/birth defect).
    That means anyone can increase their IQ with dedication and effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carpentet810 View Post
    Transorbital lobotomies should work just fine for that.
    Witty.


     
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