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This is a discussion on need advise & tips for a corporate job please within the SJ's Temperament Forum- The Overseers forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; Hello so, I'm asking for advise from anyone that is not an INFJ....probably need to hear from Extroverts and if ...

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    need advise & tips for a corporate job please

    Hello so, I'm asking for advise from anyone that is not an INFJ....probably need to hear from Extroverts and if an Introvert....need to hear advise from Sensors...

    I know usually ESTJ's dominate corporate jobs and unfortunately as fast as you like me...you'll quickly dislike me if you don't respect me.....and it's not due to my skills or lack of intelligence that causes this....I think it's because I don't cut corners and I'm seen as a "goody goody".....was raised to work hard and do a thorough job....so cutting corners just isn't in my DNA.

    I'm about to start a new corporate job in a week and the supervisor that hired me said he wants to make sure I'm a "good fit" I cringe at the phrase "good fit".....lol....as an INFJ that floats between INFJ and INTJ....and an Enneagram Type 5....I've rarely been a "good fit" in jobs that are corporate.

    A couple years ago I was hired by a job that was corporate....I knew the Director....she had been fired from her position as a Director at the nonprofit company that I worked for....and after the program managers had just hired us (at the nonprofit company)...she called an emergency meeting where she screamed at us (we were all mostly new to the company..only a handful were not new) about achieving performance stuff. So, when she interviewed me at the corporate job she recognized my name (but didn't know me personally cos I worked at a clinic and not at the headquarters and was not important for her to know...lol)....she spent most of the hour talking about how no one knew about her extra-marital affair with her Assistant Director and how being a stepmom to his kids had been hard (we all knew about her affair with the Assistant Director)...Anyway, she said several times to me that I need to change my personality at this corporate job...and then her Assistant Director started saying the same thing to me. -again this is former job from years ago.....

    So, I'm aware I need to not be too happy cos people seem to hate that even though I'm being genuine and feel happy to have a job. I'm very skilled though and have a ton of experience and that intimidated the manager that I had at my most recent job. So, I'm already aware to be quiet and not be chatty.

    I'm usually honest when asked questions by co-workers training me and I know the questions are to size me up and compare.....so that has hurt me in the past as co-workers usually don't have my experience and skills.....so, I think I'll try to politely decline to answer.....but if you have tips on how to decline or how to deflect....

    I'd appreciate it. I know being fake and bringing food to potlucks seems to be a popular corporate thing to do....

    What else can I do. Please give me tips. I want to keep this job. thank you !!!!



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    Don't do it. I'm not an SJ but someone would have to be a complete tool in 2019 to give you advice for going into a corporation.

    Your future is completely contingent on your ability to either be self employed, an independent contractor, or to work with other human beings cooperatively in a small business, rather than a cut-throat, impersonal corporation.

    Trust me. They're not going to outlast sea rise. And you won't outlast middle age for them, they'll throw you away like trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest Nymph View Post
    Don't do it. I'm not an SJ but someone would have to be a complete tool in 2019 to give you advice for going into a corporation.

    Your future is completely contingent on your ability to either be self employed, an independent contractor, or to work with other human beings cooperatively in a small business, rather than a cut-throat, impersonal corporation.

    Trust me. They're not going to outlast sea rise. And you won't outlast middle age for them, they'll throw you away like trash.
    well, unfortunately small businesses such as the nonprofit world that I came from is just as cut-throat and uncaring about their employees. I can't be picky right now. I need a job and it pays well. If I don't last and get used and spit out again....it is what it is....this time around I plan to pay off some things while I have the chance and live cheaper and start a savings.

    I appreciate your concern.

    if I had family or something this probably would be a lot easier...I grew up in foster care....so, I have no one and nothing and have to survive by working....even if the job is abusive unfortunately.

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    I am very sorry to hear about what you've been through and how you're basically forced to rely on your own. This hasn't been the case for me but I've had to put up with some other issues that were arguably just as bad. I'm not a Sensor, much less an SJ, but I can't give you any advice except that I believe the corporate world would not be a good long-term fit for you. For our type (NF) it would drain us and force us into so many dynamics, situations, realities we're extremely ill-equipped for. I'd get crushed within a week in a corporate job. I don't know what to advise you, except that pay close attention to everyone, use your intuition and observational skills to gain insight into them and protect yourself. It's a dog eat dog world. Best of luck to you and I hope you can find something far better in terms of aligning with who you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WraithOfNightmare View Post
    I am very sorry to hear about what you've been through and how you're basically forced to rely on your own. This hasn't been the case for me but I've had to put up with some other issues that were arguably just as bad. I'm not a Sensor, much less an SJ, but I can't give you any advice except that I believe the corporate world would not be a good long-term fit for you. For our type (NF) it would drain us and force us into so many dynamics, situations, realities we're extremely ill-equipped for. I'd get crushed within a week in a corporate job. I don't know what to advise you, except that pay close attention to everyone, use your intuition and observational skills to gain insight into them and protect yourself. It's a dog eat dog world. Best of luck to you and I hope you can find something far better in terms of aligning with who you are.
    I appreciate that you even took the time to read my post and comment. thank you so much for the validation and comfort....much needed cos I am terrified.......hearing "good fit" over and over and "probation period" and signing a "Right to terminate at will" agreement is terrifying.....

    again, thank you so much !!! *hugs*


     

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